Floyd's inability to land neckcrunching right hands on Pac like everyone else

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  • SplitSecond
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    Floyd's inability to land neckcrunching right hands on Pac like everyone else

    Why couldn't he do it? Anyone with a right hand seems to be able to land one of those thunderous straights, flush down the shoot on Pacquiao and have his head snapping back, but the man with the best right hand didn't land one. His best right was in the first rd, what happened, did he just fight that timid and scared?
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    You can still taste the butthurt.

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      #3
      Originally posted by SplitSecond
      Why couldn't he do it? Anyone with a right hand seems to be able to land one of those thunderous straights, flush down the shoot on Pacquiao and have his head snapping back, but the man with the best right hand didn't land one. His best right was in the first rd, what happened, did he just fight that timid and scared?
      Floyd is someone who minimises risk in the ring. Which is very funny because one of the main aspects to being a successful businessman is minimising risk as much as possible, and Floyd has the same approach to boxing in my opinion.

      He found a way which pretty much eliminated all the risk, and he was essentially fencing Pacquiao, he was doing enough, also remember Floyd did get wobbled a couple of times when he stood still, so his instincts and approach to the fight were correct.

      This only works for him because he is so sound defensively that he could nullify Pacquiao when he did rush Floyd. Other fighters can't rely on the same defensive genius so they need to get his attention or hurt him to ward him off.

      Saying all that I don't feel Floyd ever really got to grips with Pacquiao, I know that sounds strange, but I don't feel he ever really got on top of him like he has others, he never got to that phase where he was busting him up in the later rounds, and overall I don't think he fought a good offensive fight.

      In my opinion the main reason for this was the stakes were so high, that it affected both guys performance, but it was up to Pacquiao to change after round 8 or so, and he couldn't/didn't.

      Floyd didn't need to land those meaty punches in the end, it was just not necessary.

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        #4
        Originally posted by sunny31
        Floyd didn't need to land those meaty punches in the end, it was just not necessary.
        This. Floyd Mayweather, Jr. showed clearly the massive gulf in ability that has always existed between himself and Manny Pacquaio. He doesn't need to take unnecessary risks and get involved in brawls to please the armchair fans.

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          Originally posted by Scholar
          This. Floyd Mayweather, Jr. showed clearly the massive gulf in ability that has always existed between himself and Manny Pacquaio. He doesn't need to take unnecessary risks and get involved in brawls to please the armchair fans.
          I have never bought into the theory that Floyd was in 2nd gear if that is what you are implying. It was as much about what Pacquiao was doing that also didn't allow Floyd to build offensively. They nullified each other, Floyd could see the traps Pac was setting for the most part, and he didn't want to put himself in harms way.

          THAT is as much about Pacquiao being very good, as it is about Floyd not taking risks.

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            #6
            Originally posted by Scholar
            This. Floyd Mayweather, Jr. showed clearly the massive gulf in ability that has always existed between himself and Manny Pacquaio. He doesn't need to take unnecessary risks and get involved in brawls to please the armchair fans.
            I don't think Floyd showed that massive difference in skills with pacquaio that he usually shows with other opponents towards the end of the fight. It's weird for me but when I watch the entire fight it's like I give it to Floyd because he did barely enough to win and limited manny to doing anything or manny just being limited himself.

            But if I haven't watched the fight in a while I can't remember Floyd doing anything and only remember the flurry's manny landed on Floyd.

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            • NEETzsche
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              he was old and couldn't pull the trigger

              mayweather of '09 would have punished pacquiao a lot worse

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              • koolkc107
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                Don't know what fight you were watching.

                Floyd's right hand took Manny right out of his usual gameplan.

                Manny against pretty much anyone else takes all sorts of risks to get inside and throw.

                Against Floyd, he was very, very careful. And the right hands he ate early and often are the reasons why.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by sunny31
                  Floyd is someone who minimises risk in the ring. Which is very funny because one of the main aspects to being a successful businessman is minimising risk as much as possible, and Floyd has the same approach to boxing in my opinion.

                  He found a way which pretty much eliminated all the risk, and he was essentially fencing Pacquiao, he was doing enough, also remember Floyd did get wobbled a couple of times when he stood still, so his instincts and approach to the fight were correct.

                  This only works for him because he is so sound defensively that he could nullify Pacquiao when he did rush Floyd. Other fighters can't rely on the same defensive genius so they need to get his attention or hurt him to ward him off.

                  Saying all that I don't feel Floyd ever really got to grips with Pacquiao, I know that sounds strange, but I don't feel he ever really got on top of him like he has others, he never got to that phase where he was busting him up in the later rounds, and overall I don't think he fought a good offensive fight.

                  In my opinion the main reason for this was the stakes were so high, that it affected both guys performance, but it was up to Pacquiao to change after round 8 or so, and he couldn't/didn't.

                  Floyd didn't need to land those meaty punches in the end, it was just not necessary.
                  this is the only reason pac lost the fight. all the onus was on pac to make the fight exciting and when he didn't he lost. he actually landed the much better punches and in any other fight would have won but when you have people thinking he should do something and then he doesn't. you take a loss.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by koolkc107
                    Don't know what fight you were watching.

                    Floyd's right hand took Manny right out of his usual gameplan.

                    Manny against pretty much anyone else takes all sorts of risks to get inside and throw.

                    Against Floyd, he was very, very careful. And the right hands he ate early and often are the reasons why.
                    more reasons why manny lost. judging manny against manny from other fights instead of judging what happened in the actual fight. who landed cleaner punches etc...it was manny didn't do this manny didn't do that.

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