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    TQBR top 20 lb 4 lb fighters

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    1) Román González, flyweight
    It feels as if Román “Chocolatito” González’s pound-for-pound reign has been a tease, as he hasn’t had a rematch with Juan Francisco Estrada or faced Naoya Inoue since he replaced Floyd Mayweather on the throne a year ago. He hasn’t faced another flyweight fighter with pound-for-pound status but at least he took on the next best thing by moving up to junior bantamweight and conquering hard-hitting Carlos Cuadras. He showed vulnerability at the new weight, albeit against a terrific opponent, but still triumphed.

    2) Sergey Kovalev, light heavyweight
    When we last saw Sergey Kovalev, he struggled against Isaac Chilemba. When we next see Kovalev, it might be to decide the pound-for-pound king. Later this month Kovalev will face Andre Ward, a man a couple spots lower on this list. Regardless of whether you think it might be “boring” because of Ward, it’s one of the best match-ups in the sport.

    3) Terence Crawford, junior welterweight
    Terence Crawford’s win over Viktor Postol in July gave him his best win yet, cementing the impression that this kid might one day take over boxing. He’s now a two-division lineal champion. His next fight is a step down, against John Molina Jr., but he’s still a perfectly acceptable opponent.

    4) Andre Ward, light heavyweight
    Ward is still coasting on work he did years ago, but he will really earn this spot if he beats Kovalev on 19 November. Ward beat Alexander Brand in August in a fashion that, for two consecutive fights, raises doubts about whether he’s a real light heavy, and whether he might be getting old.

    5) Gennady Golovkin, middleweight
    Welterweight Kell Brook gave Golovkin his toughest fight in years, as an over-eager Golovkin got caught plenty by the skilled and fast-handed Brit. Once he settled down, it was the usual demolition job for Golovkin. Too bad a comparable fight against someone his own weight – Daniel Jacobs – has been pushed to 2017.

    6) Canelo Álvarez, middleweight
    So the 155lb middleweight king fought someone closer to his desired weight, junior middleweight Liam Smith, and looked spectacular. The bad news is that he broke a thumb and is out of commission for a while, pushing the long-desired Golvokin showdown back even further.

    7) Shinsuke Yamanaka, bantamweight
    The first time Shinsuke Yamanaka faced Anselmo Moreno, he was lucky to get away with the win. The second time, in September, he finished him off via knockout. So now he’s back in this list, deservedly. It’s unclear what he’ll do next and it wouldn’t be surprising to see him take some time off.

    8) Carl Frampton, featherweight
    In one of the better fights of 2016, Carl Frampton came out on top of Léo Santa Cruz in July. It was just what Frampton needed to shake off a couple so-so performances since demonstrating his pound-for-pound potential. We’ll be treated to a rematch in January.

    9) Timothy Bradley, welterweight
    Timothy Bradley is talking about retiring sooner rather than later. There’s been a bit of footsie around the notion of facing Miguel Cotto, which is a nice match even at 154, because Cotto isn’t the world’s biggest junior middleweight. But Bradley’s spot on this list is vulnerable to keep dropping as he’s not doing anything but talking.

    10) Vasyl Lomachenko, junior lightweight
    Remember how we were screwed out of one of the best fights that could be made in boxing, Vasyl Lomachenko v Nicholas Walters? Well, that fight is going happen on 26 November. Lomachenko climbed up to tenth on this list after dominant wins against good fighters but on Thanksgiving weekend we’ll see what he looks like against someone closer to great.

    11) Keith Thurman, welterweight
    Keith Thurman got the best win of his career in June against Sean Porter. He no longer looks like the knockout artist he once was hailed as, but he has become a solid all-round fighter. That makes him a bit less fun – although the Porter fight was pretty good – and gives him a better chance against Danny García next year, in another stellar fight.

    12) Juan Francisco Estrada, junior bantamweight
    Juan Francisco Estrada is chasing González, still, which is why he moved up in weight. He would also be happy to fight Naoya Inoue. He needs to be in a good fight for the first time in forever.

    13) Guillermo Rigondeaux, junior lightweight
    Every now and then Guillermo Rigondeaux pops his head up to say he wants some fight or the other, or someone says something about wanting to fight him. Then he faces James ****ens.

    14) Naoya Inoue, junior flyweight
    We’ve reached the big zone of fighters who haven’t done much lately, but have good resumes overall. Inoue is also talking about facing Gonzalez, a welcome bout.

    15) Adonis Stevenson, light heavyweight
    Here’s another one. Thomas Williams, Jr. gave Stevenson a real scrap in July. He’s set to go against another top 10 light heavyweight, fellow Canadian Eleider Álvarez, next year – but his whole championship reign has been lacklustre.

    16) Danny García, welterweight
    And another one. But, at least, like some of the others in this netherzone, Danny García is finally about to face someone worthy (see Thurman, above). First up is Samuel Vargas later this month.

    17) Nicholas Walters, junior lightweight
    It’s annoying that he turned down big money to tackle Lomachenko, originally, but all – or at least most – is forgiven now that we’re finally getting that slobberknocker.

    18) Kell Brook, welterweight
    I opted not to dock Kell Brook for a competitive showing against that monster Golovkin at a weight where he clearly doesn’t belong. He just drops overall because others moved up.

    19) Carlos Cuadras, junior bantamweight
    When you give the pound-for-pound king the hardest fight of his life, you just might climb into the pound-for-pound ranks yourself. A hearty welcome, Carlos.

    20) Wladimir Klitschko, heavyweight
    It’s weird to see Wladimir Klitschko here instead of the man who beat him last, but Tyson Fury is functionally retired and we’re going to treat him that way. Plus, Klitschko has done plenty over the years to keep his spot.

    Honorable mentions: Floyd Mayweather; Manny Pacquiao; Bernard Hopkins; Juan Manuel Marquez; Tyson Fury; Miguel Cotto; Erislandy Lara; Leo Santa Cruz

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    Estrada vs Gonzales 2 or Cuadras-Gonzales 2 is what im waiting for,maybe Estrada vs Cuadras for a rematch shot,as for list i think that some names like Crawford are to high.

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    • HanzGruber
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      this was posted yesterday. its a ******ed list

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      • Motorcity Cobra
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        Originally posted by HanzGruber
        this was posted yesterday. its a ******ed list
        OH ok I didn't see it. List is horrible and that site is supposed to be a boxing site.

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        • Sadiqkingofko
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          my list is the best
          Talk about anything boxing related here. Where the boxing discussion is always Non Stop!

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          • Madison Boxing
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            its a dog**** pound for pound list, one of worst ive ever seen

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            • pesticid
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              Manny Pacquiao not on the list, you can't be taken seriously. Gonzales at # 1 and Rigo at 13. I can go and on but this is as pathetic of a list as I have seen.

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              • boliodogs
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                No offense, it's your list, but Bradley at number 9 and Pacquiao way down below 20th makes zero sense to me. Pacquiao pretty much owns Bradley. He clearly kicked Bradley's ass three times in a row regardless of the terrible split decision against him in the first fight. Where ever Bradley is ranked Pacquiao should be ranked above Bradley pound for pound in my opinion. Pacquiao weighs much less than Bradley and he has a better record and he beat Bradley by a wide margin a very short time ago. Bradley had a draw with Chavez in a fight he should have won by ud. Bradley was lucky to beat Ruslin. Pacquiao would have an easy time beating either of them. Santa Cruz just barely lost to Frampton yet he is ranked so far below him. I don't have Ward or Crawford nearly as high as you do. Ward has a great record from 5 to 7 years ago but pound for pound is supposed to be how good you are today. Ward may deserve his high ranking but I can't be sure based on his sub par opposition and few fights at all in the last 5 years. If he beats Kovalev his goes at or near the top of my list but not until then. Most of your list looks OK to me but I have GGG number 1, Canelo number 4, Loma number 6 and Rigo number 7. The only reason I criticize your list at all is because you asked for discussion. I think everyone is entitled to their own list unchallenged. It is a matter of opinion and can never be proven right or wrong unless the fighters in question fight each other. Therefor there really are no incorrect lists just different opinions.

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                • Motorcity Cobra
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by boliodogs
                  No offense, it's your list,
                  Hell naw. This ain't my list. Don't put this abomination on me 😂😂

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                  • boliodogs
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                    #10
                    If this isn't your list and it's someone else's list then my comments apply to their list.

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