Comments Thread For: Arum Still Blames Mayweather-Pacquiao For Boxing's PPV Decline

[SugarAnt05]

People act like high selling PPV were such a common thing before May/PAc . Boxing has no crossover stars. Believe it or not, had Broner continued winning, he could have been a PPV seller as ppl hate this guy. I have a few friends that dont know **** about boxing but they know about him. They know he got his ass kicked by some boxer from south america(Maidana of course). It aint about skills or even knockouts for that case. If it was GGG and Rigo would be PPV kings. Boxers showing up on TMZ and media outlets is what attacts the casuals.

[SteveM]

Have you ever factored in the quality of the previous PPV fight when purchasing a PPV?

Yes - when it is the same fighter(s) involved - once bitten twice shy. Some fights scream stay away and it starts with a poor match-up and red flags include previous poor fights - which is subjective.

Works on whatever purchase - restaurants/hotels/airlines/ppv fights - do you repeatedly go to a restaurant that served you bad food? I don't.

[sparda77]

It was such a greed show. The prices, the crowd wasn't even into the show because they were all celebrities and wealthy people who do not even follow boxing. So lack of crowd excitement lead to silence during every fight except the main event. The real fans of the sport were screwed that night due to greed

True that

[sparda77]

There just arent any superstars that can capture the attention of the masses anymore.

Canelo?... He was riding a nice wave until he blatantly ducked GGG and lost tons of respect. Even from his Mexican fanbase.

GGG?... Fan friendly style but can't seem to lock in a worthy opponent in order to take his stardom to the next level. He's literally been or being ducked by every single title holder in his division.

Pac?... He has one foot in and one foot out of the sport and nobody is excited about his upcoming match vs Vargas.

Ward?... Excellent boxer but is as bland as sugar free vanilla ice-cream. He has no personality or charisma, nor does he posses a fan friendly style.

Kovalev? ... Great fighter with a fan friendly style but doesnt have the right promotional team behind him.


The other guys like Thurman, Garcia, Porter, etc just arent active enough. They're fighting once, maybe twice a year. Casuals arent waiting around for one of these guys to be in a "real fight"

That's right

[sparda77]

Soccer teams dont pick and choose who they want to face.

Soccer teams dont let games "marinate" for years on end.

As a matter of fact, no other professional sport can pull the crap that goes on in boxing. Imagine Djokovic making it to the finals and refusing to play against his opponent because (list the number of excuses boxers/promoters have come up with).

That's right

[The Big Dunn]

Yes - when it is the same fighter(s) involved - once bitten twice shy. Some fights scream stay away and it starts with a poor match-up and red flags include previous poor fights - which is subjective.

Works on whatever purchase - restaurants/hotels/airlines/ppv fights - do you repeatedly go to a restaurant that served you bad food? I don't.

You are making my point. Floyd/Manny sucking will only affect Floyd and Manny in the future. It has no bearing on fights not involving them.

Floyd/Manny not being great wasn't the reason GGG/Lemuiex didn't sell well or Cotto/Canelo didn't hit the 1 million PPV sales mark or why Crawford/Postol bombed.

Back to Floyd. His ODH fight wasn't a classic. Yet he sold more when he fought Canelo, more than that when he fought Manny after a Canelo fight that was boring according to many on NSB.

It's all about your ability to sell the fight.

[sparda77]

I don't think you are capable of having a reasoned argument-discussion. By definition most posters on this forum are hardcore fans or at least semi-hardcore.
The OP was about whether or not May-Pac was a contributing factor to post poor ppv sales. I say yes. Others say no. What does a mostly free to air sport like soccer have to do with this discussion? Soccer has more hardcore fans than boxing can ever dream about and tens of thousands more events [games] every year.
I know that boxing will always serve up good fights on paper. The schedule to end of year is proof of that. So I will continue following and watching.
What is doubtful is when we see 1 million + ppv view fights again and why the numbers have dropped off.
Others have said it is helpful or even absolutely necessary that a fighter has a striking personality to attract large numbers of viewers - yeah well, duh!!! Can't hurt can it?
I say that May-Pac disappointed many casuals and as it cost $100 those disappointed casuals will think twice before buying again.

Yeah, the actual fight and the price tag both hurt boxing. After all the hype, they delivered a snooze fest with a $100 price tag. Hardcore boxing fans and casual alike are NOT gonna forget that easily

[Sledgeweather17]

I don't think you are capable of having a reasoned argument-discussion. By definition most posters on this forum are hardcore fans or at least semi-hardcore.
The OP was about whether or not May-Pac was a contributing factor to post poor ppv sales. I say yes. Others say no. What does a mostly free to air sport like soccer have to do with this discussion? Soccer has more hardcore fans than boxing can ever dream about and tens of thousands more events [games] every year.
I know that boxing will always serve up good fights on paper. The schedule to end of year is proof of that. So I will continue following and watching.
What is doubtful is when we see 1 million + ppv view fights again and why the numbers have dropped off.
Others have said it is helpful or even absolutely necessary that a fighter has a striking personality to attract large numbers of viewers - yeah well, duh!!! Can't hurt can it?
I say that May-Pac disappointed many casuals and as it cost $100 those disappointed casuals will think twice before buying again.

Tell me who was making 1million ppvs and above before May-Pac? Tell me who? Because last time I checked, Manny and Floyd were the only ones doing those kind of numbers anyway!

So to say the numbers dropped because of May-Pac is the most ridiculous thing I ever heard.