Comments Thread For: Arum Still Blames Mayweather-Pacquiao For Boxing's PPV Decline

[Sledgeweather17]

Sure it showed that. It ALSO showed that boxing has the ability to create a huge disappointment. As a casual who has just shelled out $100 and maybe invited friends and family around to watch - you're going to remember the disappointment or the excitement of that evening. If you were disappointed badly - why repeat?

You guys are proving that boxing fans are total nutjobs! The things you complain about literally happen in every other sport.

Soccer is the most popular sport in the world and yet how many times have we had dull world cup finals and/or euro finals. How many times have we had a team park the bus in the champions league semi finals.

This happens all the time, but soccer fans don't abandon the sport because they know that there are ups and downs in every relationship.

It's just like a marriage, there's a reason the vows say 'in sickness and in health, for better or worse, till death do us part'.

The problem with boxing fans is that most of ya'll are plastic.

[elcashanilla]

this is the reason why Floyd ain't fighting anymore i strongly feel hes done unless he fights canelo again or manny becuse i dont see him doing 500k ppv with any of Al haymons stable and uit showed in his last fightt vs berto people are not interested in him or Pacquiao because of the snooooozer they put together

[Deevel916]

You guys are proving that boxing fans are total nutjobs! The things you complain about literally happen in every other sport.

Soccer is the most popular sport in the world and yet how many times have we had dull world cup finals and/or euro finals. How many times have we had a team park the bus in the champions league semi finals.

This happens all the time, but soccer fans don't abandon the sport because they know that there are ups and downs in every relationship.

It's just like a marriage, there's a reason the vows say 'in sickness and in health, for better or worse, till death do us part'.

The problem with boxing fans is that most of ya'll are plastic.

Soccer teams dont pick and choose who they want to face.

Soccer teams dont let games "marinate" for years on end.

As a matter of fact, no other professional sport can pull the crap that goes on in boxing. Imagine Djokovic making it to the finals and refusing to play against his opponent because (list the number of excuses boxers/promoters have come up with).

[RL_GMA]

He's not totally off here.

People gotta realize a big majority of the people who bought the PPV weren't hardcore fans. They were being fed the idea that this was going to be a fight like Leonard v Hearns or Hagler vs Hearns. Most casuals as well didnt take into account that both guys were past prime fighters though still at an elite level. Also, Floyd wasn't going to go out of his way to be an aggressive fighter even when he smelled blood to please the fans and Manny also wasn't the aggressive fighter he was years prior. What we ended up getting was one guy who was just a better overall boxer and did enough to get the W without putting the proverbial "cherry on top". For most Boxing fans (and more particular Mayweather fans) they knew what they were in for so it wasn't so much of a let down for them. I said from from the beginning this wasn't going to be a fight Sports fans will remember and as of today I think I was right. Casuals (for now) have put Boxing on the back burner.

Another thing too, even from last year ******ing has become A LOT more accessible be it Amazon Fire Sticks, Kodi app, Tenchis app on Roku, etc that have 1080P HD ******s (no lagging). So essentially, what's motivation to actually pay for a PPV (particularly ones that don't deserve to be on PPV) that you can literally watch for free outside of wanting to support your favorite fighter?

[TripleGFightFan]

The notion that Floyd/Manny is the cause of PPV sales being down is utterly ******. What Floyd/manny showed that if that boxing is still capable of putting on huge events when the big stars fight.

The problem is the fighters are not as good as selling themselves as Floyd was. You got to give people a reason to buy the fight. Too many posters forget this. You guys think what sells a fight is how good the fight is. Really??

How many of you have ever purchased a PPV 5 or 6 rounds into the fight because someone told you it was great? My guess is most of you will wait for the replay or find a ****** to watch it.

How does it help a fighters sales if his fans all watch his fights on ******s and you tube after the fact and don't buy a ticket or ppv before the fight?

Fans buy fights for different reasons but always BEFORE the fight happens. If you as a fighter can't connect with fans and give them a reason to watch you then you get what we are getting now.

Underrated post!...You think floyd would still sell ppv's without his prettyboy floyd/money may persona?...if it wasn't for the abrasive trash talking and the ability to back it up while being flashy...he wouldn't have gotten to the place he's in now...if Ali didn't take on a wrestler's persona from his talk with gorgeous george he wouldn't have become the Ali we all came to know and love...personality sales...you're right on the money with connecting with fans...you have to have "it"...

[PACnPBFsuck]

I knew lots of non-boxing fans who fell for the hype of that fight and thought floyd was some legendary ko artist etc. Saw the fight and their reaction by the 6th round was "are they still warming up?"

Gonna take a while to get people to fall for that kind of thing again but I think it marked the official day that MMA took over

You spend all day in a boxing forum and you let people think that Floyd was a KO artist.

[SteveM]

Manny got to where he was by beating and upsetting HOF opponents. Eubanks, jacobs and Saunders are not HOF level fighters.

You're right. But Golovkin is the best promoted fighter over the last 3/4 years - from nothing to being a top 5 attraction in the States. If he can do that off his current resume, no reason not to be able to spin the monster tag a few more times once he has totally cleaned out the MW division [however tepid it is].

[SteveM]

You guys are proving that boxing fans are total nutjobs! The things you complain about literally happen in every other sport.

Soccer is the most popular sport in the world and yet how many times have we had dull world cup finals and/or euro finals. How many times have we had a team park the bus in the champions league semi finals.

This happens all the time, but soccer fans don't abandon the sport because they know that there are ups and downs in every relationship.

It's just like a marriage, there's a reason the vows say 'in sickness and in health, for better or worse, till death do us part'.

The problem with boxing fans is that most of ya'll are plastic.

You are right about soccer. But it isn't ppv. That is what this thread is about.

[lopetego]

Floyd singlehandily killed the PPV model

by fighting bums like Berto and Guerrero in expensive PPVs nobody wanted to see and by ducking for years and then acting like a ***** in the biggest fight of the century

the guy was cancer for boxing, it will take the sport years to recover from Floyd's putrid legacy, if ever

because it's not only the PPV decline, it's all the rampant ducking and cherrypicking, fights not getting made because fighters are happily following the Mayweather model, all trying to get the most $$$ with the less amount of risk.

[The Big Dunn]

Underrated post!...You think floyd would still sell ppv's without his prettyboy floyd/money may persona?...if it wasn't for the abrasive trash talking and the ability to back it up while being flashy...he wouldn't have gotten to the place he's in now...if Ali didn't take on a wrestler's persona from his talk with gorgeous george he wouldn't have become the Ali we all came to know and love...personality sales...you're right on the money with connecting with fans...you have to have "it"...

NSB often discusses Floyd as if post 2007 was his whole career. He fought 10 years as a pro before that.

He was at the bottom and found a way to get to the top. WHile alot of posters want to blame Floyd for the state of boxing, if more fighters followed his career path and were forced to earn their stardom like he did the sport would be much better.