Will Canelo Be ATG If He Stops Golovkin??

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  • soul_survivor
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    #11
    Originally posted by Godsfly
    that marquez knock out was way better then a ko over golovkin who's done jack **** but talk about fighting fighters from 154 to 168. golovkins resume is simply put.....garbage. also golovkin was tied going into the 6th round with a freaking welterweight. he'd get a ton of credit but golovkin isn't a great fighter. in the world of "ATG's" at middleweight he's a C class fighter. very very poor resume. you can't claim ATG status with that.
    Marquez had a great rivalry with Pacquiao and they were always on similar footing.

    GGG has battered full sized middleweights and barely lost a round in the process, whether you like it or not. The Brook fight speaks of his own strength and if you people actually decide to watch fights and fighters rather than being fanboys, you would know that Brook has always been strong. Like I said before the fight, Brook has to use his natural strength and get in GGGs face from the get go. He did that and had limited success...but he also got his orbital bone broken. If that's not a dominant win for GGG then nothing is.

    Canelo would be going up against someone who punches hard enough to crack guys to the body AND head, with genuine KO power. P4P he is one of the premier punchers in the sport, depending on how you rank Kov.

    Not to forget, Canelo will be giving up height, reach and natural size advantages. If he still manages to beat a guy with all that and to stop him too, it's more impressive than 2 guys of equal size getting a KO. Any objective boxing fan can see that.

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    • Rip Chudd
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      #12
      Originally posted by soul_survivor
      I dunno about ATG but if he actually stops GGG, puts on a beating, takes him to the cleaners etc etc, then it would be THE win of the decade so far, better than JMM stopping Pacquiao cold, better than Mayweather pitty pattying his way to victory and better than Furys best/worst Ali impression over Wlad.
      Surely you jest

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      • stuff jones
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        #13
        Originally posted by Sadiqkingofko
        Will Canelo Be ATG If He Stops Golovkin??
        define ATG. Top 50 p4p ever?

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          #14
          GGG done nothing to be ATG level win if Canelo beat him and have good run in MW ,maybe he can be candidate for ATG .

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          • Sadiqkingofko
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            #15
            Originally posted by stuff jones
            define ATG. Top 50 p4p ever?
            Top 250 maybe

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            • BennyST
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              #16
              Originally posted by Sadiqkingofko
              Will Canelo Be ATG If He Stops Golovkin??
              Well, one stoppage win in an entire career doesn't really make or break you as an ATG or bum.

              Beating GGG will be a great win for his career, and if he stopped him, then ok, but it doesn't make that much difference. If he put on a masterclass clinic and completely nullified anything that GGG did and was able to do that for 12 rounds, then I'd be more impressed by that in terms of legacy greatness than a stoppage win in a close war.

              Either way, one win doesn't make or break a career from ATG to nobody.

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              • KLockard23
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                #17
                No. But he would get a ton of respect for proving everyone wrong.

                However, if he beat Golovkin (by KO or not) and then knocked out Mayweather in a rematch in his next fight, then yes.

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                • Godsfly
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by soul_survivor
                  Marquez had a great rivalry with Pacquiao and they were always on similar footing.

                  GGG has battered full sized middleweights and barely lost a round in the process, whether you like it or not. The Brook fight speaks of his own strength and if you people actually decide to watch fights and fighters rather than being fanboys, you would know that Brook has always been strong. Like I said before the fight, Brook has to use his natural strength and get in GGGs face from the get go. He did that and had limited success...but he also got his orbital bone broken. If that's not a dominant win for GGG then nothing is.

                  Canelo would be going up against someone who punches hard enough to crack guys to the body AND head, with genuine KO power. P4P he is one of the premier punchers in the sport, depending on how you rank Kov.

                  Not to forget, Canelo will be giving up height, reach and natural size advantages. If he still manages to beat a guy with all that and to stop him too, it's more impressive than 2 guys of equal size getting a KO. Any objective boxing fan can see that.
                  golovkin has premier punching power? guess what, from a ATG prospective no one gives a **** a$$. there has been COUNTLESS fighters with great power, fighters no one no longer even remembers.

                  & NO the brook win wasn't a dominant win. anyone that isn't a golovkin fan boy would know that. theres sequences that happen in A fight that should be noted rather then talking about a broken orbital bone hiding behind the levels, hoops, and bounds of what happened in the fight.

                  the fight was tied going into the 6th. even could be argued that brook was up 1 point. brook. a welterweight did better then any other middleweight fighter against golovkin, not because brook is a middleweight but because brook has some quality about him. the problem is he's a quality fighter AT WELTERWEIGHT......

                  he's one of golovkins first quality opponents, wade & monroe are trash....hot garbage. & i have to put it in this harsh way to golovkin fans because you guys are hard headed & just refuse to see realty & would rather keep gong on and on and on purposely and JOYFULLY deluding yourself.

                  ATG status is about resume. who has golovkin done all of these wonderful things against. trash......right now golovkin is no where NEAR hall of fame (although he's almost 35) he's no where NEAR hall of fame. so a win over him for canelo wouldn't leap him into any ATG category. i don't have anything against canelo too because at least he's fought mayweather, lara, cotto, the trouts of the world.......& his resume is light years past a 35 yr old golovkin. but i have to face the facts.

                  golovkin is no where near a great middleweight. he's slow, leaky defense, & with his back on the wall he relies strictly on power to bail him out (don't b*tch about that. I've seen him do it against 2 of his toughest opponents to date ouma & brook) thats not a great middleweight.........thats a middleweight with good power that just hasn't faced the quality of opponents which would force his hand & beat him.


                  marquez ko'ing pac when he was on a welterweight tare closing the show is much greater then a win over golovkin.


                  hummmm


                  work.
                  Last edited by Godsfly; 11-01-2016, 07:31 AM.

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                  • davef
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                    #19
                    If canelo won clearly I would see it more as golovkin just wasnt this invincible wrecking machine ppl claim and has been exposed vs the first legit proven fighter he faced certainly wouldnt make canelo an ATG yet

                    The other way if golovkin wins clearly even by ko it will prove he is great fighter no more doubt but not an ATG yet

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                    • Mequetrefe
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                      #20
                      No because that will never happen.

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