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was Roberto Duran really that great?
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Originally posted by Thread Stealer View Postduran was an atg....now just imagine how much greater he would have been if he had some discipline outside the ring and with the fork.
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Originally posted by wpink1 View PostJust who at lightweight did he beat. If you go to boxrec.com...it is a bunch of fighters with losing records for the most part. he did beat Ray Leoanrd and is a great fighter, but Not above Ray or mayweather in my book. He beat Ray when ray willing...I repeat willingly chose to fight durans fight. Look what happened when he fought his fight...then Duran got beat by Benetiz and Heanrs..
Now I agree it was a higher weights, but you cant say past his prime at age 30-33 when we are still reserving judgment for mayweather at his age now, and yes Mayweather has moved up from 130 as well.
From 1971-1978 he fought at Lightweight (135) 23 times by my count, and lost only one to Esteban De Jesus who was a great fighter in his own right. Duran and De Jesus had 3 fights at LW with Duran winning two. Note, he was also fighting at Jr. WW during those years as well.
Duran lost to Hearns and Benitez at Light Middleweight in the latter stage of his prime and well after moving out of the LW-Jr.WW divisions.
I believe my figures are accurate after making a run thru the numerous stats. If there are any errors they are nominal.
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Ruled the lightweight devision for a decade. Probably the greatest light weight ever. Went something like 74-1. Probably P4P the hardest puncher ever. I may get laughed at for that, but the guy had a monsterous punch from 126-175. Now thats something. Beat a PRIME Ray Leonard. The only man to do so. Beat Barkley in one of the best fights anyone has ever seen. Won world titles in the 135,147,154 and 160 pounds. Won minor titles at 168 Pounds. Duran is an atg for sure.
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Duran... Duran... Duran...
For a guy who has been retired for over six years, and hasn't had a significant fight since Iran Barkley (1989), Robeto Duran has sparked almost as much argument as Floyd Mayweather jr., who's still active.
What is it about this guy?
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Originally posted by Brandish View Posthe is overrated for sure. an overachiever. never a great just very good. floyd would beat him easily if they fought.
Ironic that Duran had over 100 fights. Mayflower has 38 and has already retired once. Floyd not even in Duran's class.
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Originally posted by FistoftheDallasStar View PostExactly. You have to watch some of Duran's early fights to really appreciate his boxing talent. He really put a beating to some of the light weights he faced. He was a great fighter in my opinion.... As a side note even though he did get knocked out by Thomas "the hitman" Hearns, who by the way was in his prime, he also defeated Iran Barkley who KO'd Hearns and went the distance with Marvelous Marvin Hagler.
I seen Duran fight a couple of times.
I think he didn't possess a lot of speed, but he has a good 1 punch KO.
Would you agree with me there?
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Originally posted by Mike Tyson Jr. View PostI just got some new fights into
my collection. I got the one with
Roberto Duran against Tommy Herns.
My uncle keeps saying Duran was so great.
I saw the tape when Duran quit against Sugar
Ray too. Now seeing Tommy Herns knock him out
with one punch. Why do people keep saying Duran
is so great especially old people.
I saw a 50 year old Duran lose to Camacho, you're right, he ******.
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Originally posted by newforce View PostI seen Duran fight a couple of times.
I think he didn't possess a lot of speed, but he has a good 1 punch KO.
Would you agree with me there?
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