Why do UFC fans keep trying to shove the MMA Agenda down boxing's throat?

[ussy]

I guess the question is why boxing fans are insecure little ******* when it comes to UFC?

I guarantee you any attendee of a UFC event would never change that experience for any boxing event. Boxing is a game of mismatches right now. Nobody is really legitimately fighting top dog after top dog. It just doesn't happen and hasn't since the days of Oscar dela hoya probably.

That's some sad ass crap. And the events are boring as ***, the same old shyt over and over.

Since getting into the UFC, I have to admit that I now understand why those guys think boxing is boring.

But you'll never get it until you get into it on your own.

Bingo. Exactly this. A mate of mine got me in to watching UFC and I have to admit I fell in love with MMA. The excitement in genuinely not knowing who will win is thrilling, something you experience very rarely in boxing sadly. Used to love boxing, but it got to a point where boxing never gave f**k all back to you as a fan.

[PACnPBFsuck]

Okay, so how about a guy around Floyd's weight class? Mcgregor, Dos Anos, Aldo.. And not in a boxing ring. Anywhere else...

Floyd gets handled. Easy. Real fùckin easy. Like 1-2 minutes tops and it's RNC time. And this is a Floyd fan talking. A boxing fan.

And don't put it past a girl, and her vagina and PMS and whatever the fùck, to put a hurting on a guy. I've seen it happen. Burly dude, muscles and all, got tossed and twisted up like a pretzel by a chick that was 50 lbs lighter. No bullshít. True story.

That was what jiu-jitsu was designed for: using an adversary's strength and momentum against them and manipulating joints and applying chokes to defeat a stronger opponent.

Royce Gracie was heavily outweighed by nearly opponent he faced in the first four UFC tournaments, and he fúcked them all up with his brain, not his brawn. And yeah, tournaments motherfúckers, 3-4 fights per event. Ever see a boxer fight 4 times in one night, and finish each guy? Gracie did it at UFC 2.

There's a reason most of us stay out of the MMA threads, hell, when I showed up in this website around 2009, a MMA thread wouldn't last 2 minutes in NSB without getting destroyed, look at this shyt now, constant threads in NSB like somehow the MMA sub menu has been removed.

You wanna talk MMA, go to sherdog or go into the MMA menu, that shyt is unacceptable in NSB. I don't give 2 shyts about fantasy fight between Floyd vs MMA fighter or any other boxer for that matter. When a MMA fighter is in boxing ring schooling a top boxer without kicking them, holla at me.

[HandsofIron]

Mma fighters can certainly rain down elbows while in a top position, except in Pride, where elbows weren't allowed because of cuts. Stomping/soccer kicking a downed opponent was allowed in Pride, however.

Mma doesn't favor grapplers, fighting does. Boxing/kboxing fans have this delusion that only striking wins fights. It certainly helps, but the vast majority of fights (yes, even street fights) end up on the ground, and if you're clueless with grappling/jiu jitsu, it's bad news for you.

Mma is not a no-rules street fight, but it's a million miles closer than boxing, which is why I can admit that (even though boxing is my favorite sport) a boxer doesn't stand much chance against an mma fighter, unless it's in a boxing ring with boxing rules.

But fighting isn't boxing, is it? Boxing is only one aspect of hand-to-hand combat.

Fighting or grappling, it's still hand-to-hand combat. What I'm trying to say is that there are certain moves that a UFC fighter can't do to an opponent when they're lying on their back/pulling guard or on the ground:

- no headbutts
- no eye pokes
- no eye gouging
- no biting
- hair pulling
- soccer kicks
- stomping, kicking or kneeing the head of a ground opponent
- fish hooking
- groin attacks
- small joint manipulation
- striking downward using the point of the elbow
- striking to the spine or the back of the head
- kicking to the kidney with a heel
- throat strikes of any kind, including, without limitation, grabbing the trachea etc...

There are a grip of rules that clearly favors the ground fighter which makes it unrealistic. A street fight is totally different because anything goes. And a majority of the time it starts off standing (Boxer always has the advantage here) then it goes to grappling and then to the ground.

[LacedUp]

There's a reason most of us stay out of the MMA threads, hell, when I showed up in this website around 2009, a MMA thread wouldn't last 2 minutes in NSB without getting destroyed, look at this shyt now, constant threads in NSB like somehow the MMA sub menu has been removed.

You wanna talk MMA, go to sherdog or go into the MMA menu, that shyt is unacceptable in NSB. I don't give 2 shyts about fantasy fight between Floyd vs MMA fighter or any other boxer for that matter. When a MMA fighter is in boxing ring schooling a top boxer without kicking them, holla at me.

So insecure

[Elroy The Great]

[GMAN SUPREME]

LOL yet here you are bringing up ufc on a boxing forum.talk about being ******

[Szef]

Lol. Is that a serious comment? Mayweather was a worldwide mega star when twitter, facebook & instagram were founded. Mcgregor was a complete unknown for years beyond their launches.

McGregor has done 4 straight PPVs with an average on 1.4million buys. for a sport with a much newer and smaller following than boxing, to do numbers that'll rival any boxer in history is pretty damn impressive.

And then I'd like to ask you which other fights you have seen Mendes, or Aldo or Diaz in? None probably which goes for the same as everyone else.

We saw what happened when Floyd fought someone who wasn't a star in Berto. 300k.

If McGregor fought Berto he would get 1M+ easy.

Floyd - Berto did 300K mostly because it happened after the Pacquiao fight. People were still hangovered after that joke of a fight. Hell, they still are.

Not saying it would've done much better if it happened before May 2, I'm thinking 600 - 800k.

As for McGregor - Berto doing better than Floyd - Berto, you are right. Why? Because MMAs biggest star would be fighting a former boxing champ with a name.

Now give me a MMA equivalent of Berto and put them in the ring against Floyd and see what happens...

MMA might be superior to boxing at the moment but boxing will always survive because of its history and its impact on culture and world in general (Louis/Schmeling, Ali, Tyson etc). Because unlike MMA, boxing has a history.

I just can't see MMA being still around or being as significant as it is today 20 years from now.

[hayZ]

Why the UFC is more popular than Boxing in the states right now:

- Better promoting: They are using YouTube, Social Media far more effectively and embrace it rather than run away from it like Boxing. Boxing media are still keen on writing articles like anyone reads that **** anymore and neglect the internet, new media. You seen the UFC 205 trailer? Show me something in Boxing that is even close to that.

- Structure: The way MMA is setup, in terms of promotions makes it easier for the big fights to happen. Theres only 1 big show in town, and they hold more power. It's better for the fans but worse for the fighters. The average casual doesn't give two ****s about the fighter, they want to see some good fights with the big names. This leads to fighters being underpaid but having to take fights or remain inactive and not earn anything.

- No promoters squabbling: There are way too many issues in Boxing between promoters. Al Haymon/Mayweather inflated the market in terms of money and now fighters are expecting to be paid way more than they are worth. Berto was getting paid 1mill per fight. Only the TOP MMA fighters get paid anywhere near that. The P4P best in the UFC D.Johnson doesn't get paid that much lmao. This leads to fights not happening, especially when promoters want specific fights on their network, i.e. Frank Warren/Boxnation and Eddie Hearn/Sky.

MMA is better than Boxing when it comes to self-defense, this leads to many more people coming up training MMA rather than Boxing. I think Boxing will still be relevant for a long time BECAUSE Boxing gyms are usually cheaper, less gear needed and less injuries.

[LacedUp]

Floyd - Berto did 300K mostly because it happened after the Pacquiao fight. People were still hangovered after that joke of a fight. Hell, they still are.

Not saying it would've done much better if it happened before May 2, I'm thinking 600 - 800k.

As for McGregor - Berto doing better than Floyd - Berto, you are right. Why? Because MMAs biggest star would be fighting a former boxing champ with a name.

Now give me a MMA equivalent of Berto and put them in the ring against Floyd and see what happens...

MMA might be superior to boxing at the moment but boxing will always survive because of its history and its impact on culture and world in general (Louis/Schmeling, Ali, Tyson etc). Because unlike MMA, boxing has a history.

I just can't see MMA being still around or being as significant as it is today 20 years from now.

Mcgregor fought Mendes and Diaz, two fighters who were never champions unlike Berto and did much more.

So there's your answer.

I don't think UFC is going anywhere. Neither is boxing, but the whole set up is so much better and that doesn't look like it's going to change.

[al-Xander]

I guess the question is why boxing fans are insecure little ******* when it comes to UFC?

Precisely. Current fighters are disgusting divas right now. They fight once a year and want to get overpaid for fighting cab drivers. We need fresh faces.