Granted Cotto is a HOF'r, but is he a true ATG?

[Sadiqkingofko]

No unless he beats Canelo and Golovkin before he retires

[New England]

not even close.

most people cosider the ATG the top 10 in a division, or the top 100 all time. that's a loose characterization, but one i find a good deal of people will go by.

he's nowhere near the top 10 at 140. at WW ? f#cking WW? the division with armstrong, leonard, and robinson? that WW?

so no
no freaking way
nah brih

[GMAN SUPREME]

hell no!!!

[therealpugilist]

not even close.

most people cosider the ATG the top 10 in a division, or the top 100 all time. that's a loose characterization, but one i find a good deal of people will go by.

he's nowhere near the top 10 at 140. at WW ? f#cking WW? the division with armstrong, leonard, and robinson? that WW?

so no
no freaking way
nah brih

Most definitely... Cotto is the poster boy for near Greats

He didn't have that one special attribute to get jom over the hump

He'd get destroyed by gavilan, Leonard's, basilio would break him down, Rodriquez was too mobile n deceptive power, then let's not forget Dlh, Whitaker, curry, Griffith, Armstrong, ted kid lewis

He would've been a contender but he wouldn't have been "great" in every era.

[daggum]

he would have beaten floyd back 5 years before they fought but floyd went byebye and changed the course of history. just like back to the future. floyd had the sports almanac and saw himself losing so he just didn't fight. clever

[GOD-FR33]

No BUT.....

Cotto is a first ballot HOF'mer who fought everyone and never ducked anyone. He is not an ATG. He is however, one of the greatest fighter's in Puerto Rican history.

Now. Here's where threads like this get tricky. In the same way Cotto isn't an ATG, neither is Floyd Mayweather. Are you fair enough to admit that about Floyd? If so, I respect you. Cotto's resume is better than Floyd's. You can consider Oscar and Tito ATG's based on era and opposition faced. Oscar has one of the top five resumes EVER. Remember, being an all-time great is about who you fought, when you fought them, and how many of those tough fights did you win. Manny is an ATG and a top 10 one in my book. Bernard Hopkin's is a HOF'mer. I do not consider him one of the greatest fighter's I've ever seen. He was BIG and took advantage of it for a long time by staying at middleweight. Who did his 20 something title defenses come against? His claim to fame was Tito and Oscar, who were too small. Tarver was coming off filming Rocky and was FAT. He drained himself back down to Light Heavyweight. Pavlik was a drunk. Winky gave him all he could handle, despite getting head butted early in the fight. I respect him but he is no ATG. Everybody's opinion is different when it comes to this topic.

[SugarRayCurtain]

Cotto lost his major fights
Wasnt his best win against Mosley or a One legged Martinez? Come on, not good enough

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Not an atg... not a knock of cotto, he was a really talented fighter, first ballot hall of fame but not atg..

That term gets used way too much around here..

[Zaryu]

Not sure who was arguing he was an ATG, but that's definitely a stretch. He tried, but tings didn't workout that way for him, however, he is still a great fighter and one of the best of his time.

[Larry the boss]

No he is not an ATG