How much money is a mandatory challenger purse worth?

[_Maxi]

Why are you asking a hypothetical where GGG makes such a low amount? We don't know the money because we don't know the purse bid. I expect the winning bid will exceed $3 mil.

As I said, values isn't about the things you listed. Another example is Saunders. He isn't worth $3 mil but K2 offered him that because they want the WBO belt.

2 millions is what Golovkin makes when fighting on HBO. Even if he gets paid 3 millions and Jacobs 1.5, Jacobs still is not getting paid more than a Quillin so that was the scenario he was complaining about.

Saunders and the UK is different. As you saw with the Brook fight, in the UK they can make a bigger fight and make more money.

[_Maxi]

... Gennady Golovkin is almost 35 years old, has never been in a meaningful fight in his 10-year career, and is haggling his way out of a $10m downside payday.

what's Golovkin's excuse?

As Oscar said, they are negotiating in private that fight, and the fight will get made.

Now back on topic please, thanks.

[b00g13man]

"Business" is only important when it benefits GGG. Ridiculous.

[The Big Dunn]

2 millions is what Golovkin makes when fighting on HBO. Even if he gets paid 3 millions and Jacobs 1.5, Jacobs still is not getting paid more than a Quillin so that was the scenario he was complaining about.

Saunders and the UK is different. As you saw with the Brook fight, in the UK they can make a bigger fight and make more money.

Maxi, I answered your question about worth. You want Jacobs to fight for what you feel he is worth. I think you are miscalculating his worth given the realities of the situation.

If don't see why they just can't settle on 33% and get it signed for HBO, unless the promoter has funds to bid an absurd amount to get fight.

[BlakBread904]

Worth is determined by the power you have to negotiate not the factors the TS lists. An example is Tim bradley, who was never a draw, but worth $6 mil to TR in a Manny fight because they needed a quality opponent for Manny.

Another is Jacobs. GGG wants to unify the belts. As a mando he is entitled to 25% of the purse. However his value is much more in that if they do not reach an agreement.

If a deal is not consummated, the fight goes to purse bid. Losing the purse bid could create a scenario where GGG is forced to vacate the WBA belt. This would end his dream of unification and put him in a difficult position since the WBO looks to be allowing Saunders to fight Canelo.

So its in Jacobs best interest to not agree to the standard 25% but use the possibility of the above and GGG's desire to unify to negotiate a higher purse split, perhaps as high as 35%

There is no scenario in which GGG vacates the WBA belt. What, you think HBO would force him? Loeffler is on record saying that networks wouldn't be an issue with GGG/Jacobs.

[The Big Dunn]

There is no scenario in which GGG vacates the WBA belt. What, you think HBO would force him? Loeffler is on record saying that networks wouldn't be an issue with GGG/Jacobs.

IMO they shouldn't be. That said, if a haymon affiliated promoter wins the purse bid, they get to choose the network and location. I would think hBo would let him fight since he is likely to win but after Kov/Duva asked out of the purse bid for Stevenson I am not sure.

[Robbie Barrett]

In terms of money, you don't answer the question. If GGG makes two millions, then 35% for Jacobs means he earns about 1 million. Would he accept that?

Maxi showing us his maths and failing badly.

[Scipio2009]

There is no scenario in which GGG vacates the WBA belt. What, you think HBO would force him? Loeffler is on record saying that networks wouldn't be an issue with GGG/Jacobs.

Yes, HBO is not going to want to risk the nearly 4 years that they put into building Golovkin, for him to go to the rival broadcaster (with HBO getting no piece of the fight), for his toughest fight as a professional and risk, not only getting stuck with a beltless 35-year old fighter with no resume to fall back on, but also see their money fight for Saul Alvarez go up in smoke (with the possibility of having a shot to unify the division against Daniel Jacobs possibly also pushing the WBO 160 belt over to Showtime).

You add that Showtime would only be responsible for a single Golovkin fight, compared to HBO already having an annual commitment of over $5m behind Golovkin, and K2's got a business decision to make.

Is the WBA 160 belt worth risking an annual $5m from HBO, plus the opportunity to try and become a $10m per fight fighter?

[Bardock]

Considering he doesn't generate good ratings and doesn't sell out?

For example you have a similar fight in Garcia-Matthysse.
Matthysse made 785k.

I don't give a fuck how much he got paid against Quillin. That's not our problem, that's Haymon's/Jacobs problem.

Jacobs is nothing but a interim champion/mandatory challenger.

This guy is speaking like hes part of Team Golovkin LMAO

[elfag]

squaking about money far out from the fight and at the beginning of negotiations is acceptable, everybody is trying to get the most they can and I dont blame them, theres no pension in boxing like there is in most league sports.

If they duck the fight completely using unrealistic demands for money and the fight never happens then thats different.

I'll wait to see how this plays out, mainly because I dont care either way, its a low interest fight and who cares if he has an ABC trinket, GGG will obliterate him like he does all the other bums at 160.