2007 - 2010 Welterweights (Excluding Pac and May) Vs 2016 welters

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  • soul_survivor
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    #31
    Originally posted by Thraxox
    Bradley is a cross generation fighter, he had been in the scene since 2008 eight where he was schooling everyone in 140, he was in the second half of the first generation and he is in the 1st half of the second generation, and also, bradley is retring, same as Pacquiao, so I could never put him as a "New Rosters" Of Welterweights
    Then you can't do the same for Khan either. He and Bradley have almost the same time in the pro game.

    The fact is, most of these guys and I'm talking about Thurman, Porter and Brook are nearing in or are 30 and yet they don't even have a fraction of the achievements of Khan and Bradley, let alone May or Pac and that's the biggest problem from now till back then.

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    • elfag
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      #32
      2007 welters were better.

      To think of it that all of them would loose to Clottey today if they fought him at 154 and his prime was 10 years ago and he was just a solid underrated guy, not a super star or anything.


      The only stand out today is crawford, but he hasnt come up to welter yet. Hes very skilled though.

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        #33
        Originally posted by bojangles1987
        It's hard to imagine today's welterweights dealing very well with prime Cotto, Margarito, and Williams, or slightly past it Mosley. I'm not saying it's impossible for them to win, but it's really hard to imagine. I could see Thurman and Brook doing well against them.

        Man, what in the world would Thurman do with Margarito? That's an awful style match-up for him.
        Thurman might have a shot if he can box for 12 rounds. I wouldn't give a fighter like Spence more than 3 rounds against Margarito. That would just be a brutal ending.

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          #34
          Originally posted by soul_survivor
          Then you can't do the same for Khan either. He and Bradley have almost the same time in the pro game.

          The fact is, most of these guys and I'm talking about Thurman, Porter and Brook are nearing in or are 30 and yet they don't even have a fraction of the achievements of Khan and Bradley, let alone May or Pac and that's the biggest problem from now till back then.
          If anything, Thurman has a decent resume just about to turn 28. Former champs/contenders in Collazo, Quintana, Porter, Chaves, Zaveck, Guerrero, & Karass.
          If he can beat Garcia & Porter in a rematch convincingly by the time he turns 29, it'll look great. Or unify by 30 age.

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            #35
            Originally posted by BM dnobagaV
            If anything, Thurman has a decent resume just about to turn 28. Former champs/contenders in Collazo, Quintana, Porter, Chaves, Zaveck, Guerrero, & Karass.
            If he can beat Garcia & Porter in a rematch convincingly by the time he turns 29, it'll look great. Or unify by 30 age.
            Is his resume even remotely comparable to khan or Bradley? Zaveck and karass are c level at best. Let's not even begin to compare it to what the welters of yesteryear had dome by 28.

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              #36
              Originally posted by soul_survivor
              Is his resume even remotely comparable to khan or Bradley? Zaveck and karass are c level at best. Let's not even begin to compare it to what the welters of yesteryear had dome by 28.
              Cotto yeah, Williams & Margarito, at 28, did not have better resumes than Thurman.

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                #37
                Originally posted by BM dnobagaV
                Cotto yeah, Williams & Margarito, at 28, did not have better resumes than Thurman.
                Margarito at 28 has wins of Sergio Martinez, Miguel Cotto, and Joshua Clottey WTF man. Those wins alone trumps any of Thurman's wins

                And Miguel Cotto has wins of Paulie Malinaggi, Zab Judah, Slightly Past it Shane Mosley and Clottey at 28 that is more than thurman can ever achieve.

                With Williams Having wins of Sergio Martinez, Kermit Cintron, and Antonio Margarito, those wins trumps any wins in all of these welterweights of today.

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                  #38
                  another ****** topic Garica would beat Margrito as for Spence he still not won a title, Kermit Cintron was the next big thing and never amounted to nothing hold judgement on spence until he gets a title

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by BM dnobagaV
                    Cotto yeah, Williams & Margarito, at 28, did not have better resumes than Thurman.
                    Huh? Williams had fought and beaten marg by 28, as well as beating martinez and going back n forth (controversially) with Quintana, all the while moving between 147-160. That's not to mention he simply had more fights by then too.

                    Oops almost forgo he also held a win over Wright.

                    You are either trolling or have little or no idea about thurmans opponents and are thus, severely overeating them.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Thraxox
                      Margarito at 28 has wins of Sergio Martinez, Miguel Cotto, and Joshua Clottey WTF man. Those wins alone trumps any of Thurman's wins

                      And Miguel Cotto has wins of Paulie Malinaggi, Zab Judah, Slightly Past it Shane Mosley and Clottey at 28 that is more than thurman can ever achieve.

                      With Williams Having wins of Sergio Martinez, Kermit Cintron, and Antonio Margarito, those wins trumps any wins in all of these welterweights of today.
                      Lol I just posted this too. I think the guy has a serious lack of knowledge on who thurmans opponents are and just seems to be naming names for the sake of it.

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