Is The Ring Magazine P4P Top 10 Rankings a Joke?

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  • i got the keys
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    #31
    Originally posted by bigdramashow
    aha i can assure you im not, 6 ft 3. I say the midget shouldnt be top, because theres no real interest in them divisions, and the sad truth of it is that they are freaks of nature. WHat next, if there was a dwarf who was 100-0 would you put him top of p4p list?
    That's overkill. There have been many small guys that could ****.

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      #32
      Originally posted by i got the keys
      That's overkill. There have been many small guys that could ****.
      yeah dwarf comment may be overkill but there really is no interest in these guys, at the real low weights. Super bantamweight is about as low as its acceptable for a grown man to be, and thats really pushing it still. Not doubting there skill level but i cant give p4p title to someone like that, sorry. A lot of the western countries dont even have people small enough to compete. Is why the asians dominate it (japan, thailand etc) despite being useless for the most part in other divisions

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        #33
        Originally posted by bigdramashow
        yeah dwarf comment may be overkill but there really is no interest in these guys, at the real low weights. Super bantamweight is about as low as its acceptable for a grown man to be, and thats really pushing it still. Not doubting there skill level but i cant give p4p title to someone like that, sorry. A lot of the western countries dont even have people small enough to compete. Is why the asians dominate it (japan, thailand etc) despite being useless for the most part in other divisions
        You can't determine your size but you can damn sure determine skill. Those fighters get just as much respect as the next. You just haven't watched them. Those lower weight-classes have traditionally been where you got your best action.

        Watch the below fight and tell me that small guys don't deserve recognition in boxing. One of my fav fights to watch.

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          #34
          Originally posted by bigdramashow
          yeah dwarf comment may be overkill but there really is no interest in these guys, at the real low weights. Super bantamweight is about as low as its acceptable for a grown man to be, and thats really pushing it still. Not doubting there skill level but i cant give p4p title to someone like that, sorry. A lot of the western countries dont even have people small enough to compete. Is why the asians dominate it (japan, thailand etc) despite being useless for the most part in other divisions
          112 is one of the original weight classes established in the UK in 1909 go look at Jimmy Wildes resume all you see are Europeans but I dont expect you to do any research or learning anything about boxing.

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            #35
            Where is Manny Pacquiao? Its big joke

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              #36
              Originally posted by 1hourRun
              112 is one of the original weight classes established in the UK in 1909 go look at Jimmy Wildes resume all you see are Europeans but I dont expect you to do any research or learning anything about boxing.
              we eat a balanced diet now, malnutrition is rare these days

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                #37
                Ring magazine is just the propaganda arm for GBP these days. I don't believe anyone should take them all that seriously with rankings & certain stories or angles they take. That said ALL pound for pound lists can be argued to be faulty or nutty or what have you cuz pound for pound is some sci fi fantasy bs any damn way.

                I would also suggest that any real P4P list should be the most fickle list around as we should be grading boxers on a moment in time & not an accumulation of accomplishments & wins like it seems to work. I'd suggest a real P4P list should have more drastic ranking changes when guys on the list have a bad performance while still winning fights.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by pesticid
                  Listen guys I am not a fan of Wlad, Adonis, Pacman or Danny Garcia but not having them on the top 10 list and have Roman at # 1 and GGG at number 3 then add Frampton and Vasyl to the equation, I mean WTF? At least nobody made Kell Brooke at top 10 PFP after that ugly win against Porter.

                  And for anybody curious what my list should be:

                  1. Pacquaiao
                  2. Wlad
                  3. Ward
                  4. Rigondeaux
                  5. Kovalev
                  6. Danny Garcia
                  7. Roman Gonzales
                  8. Canelo
                  9. Crawford
                  10. GGG/Adonis
                  Pac, Wlad, Garcia wtf ! Crawford behind Canelo ? Adonis still being on the list. This list is so wrong and out of touch.

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                    #39
                    Manny pac should still be on p4p lists...

                    Wlad hasn't fought in over a year and last time out he got cleanly outboxed by fury.. Got no problem with people dropping him from the rankings...

                    Roman shouldn't be #1, ggg isn't a top 3

                    Ward
                    Kovolev
                    Roman
                    Rigo
                    Manny
                    Golovkin
                    Crawford
                    Frampton
                    Canelo
                    Lomachenko

                    In my personal opinion

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by bigdramashow
                      we eat a balanced diet now, malnutrition is rare these days
                      Im still waiting on your list...could it be the fact that you have to include : Crawford,Ward, and maybe even Rigo is keeping from presenting your row of killers?

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