The Official: "Pac-Man" Pacquiao vs "Ruthless" Vargas Fight Discussion Thread

[Daniel_T5]

you thought he looked good against algieri? lol.

margarito was a sitting target.

did you not see the part where i said vargas has decent boxing skills?

so you think being at a 4" height/reach disadvantage doesnt play any role in it?

good enough to knock him down what was it 6 times?

[WesternChamp]

He can beat Garcia because he is not proven at 147. The rest of the elite would beat him. Not a huge fan of Porter but he's pretty durable.


He'll beat Manny at this stage of his career.

porter was pac's sparring partner just stop it. porter is even more sloppier than manny when he comes in. pac will pick him apart.

like i said, its easier said than done. the awkwardness from manny always get to his opponents. it looks easy on the tv screen but its a different ball game inside the ring. marquez is the only one that was able to ko manny as of recent, fought pac 3 times prior to that.

[boxinggod101]

Who won? I didn't even watch my friends said it was a draw.

ur friend is drunk

[WesternChamp]

good enough to knock him down what was it 6 times?

lunging in reaching just like in this fight. i thought he looked worst in the algieri fight. he could have stopped chris. height plays a role whether you wanna admit to it or not. plus half those werent legit knockdowns and this is coming from a pac fan.

[RomanReigns]

porter was pac's sparring partner just stop it. porter is even more sloppier than manny when he comes in. pac will pick him apart.

like i said, its easier said than done. the awkwardness from manny always get to his opponents. it looks easy on the tv screen but its a different ball game inside the ring. marquez is the only one that was able to ko manny as of recent, fought pac 3 times prior to that.

Pacquiao in his 3rd fight against Bradley > Pacquiao in his fight vs. Vargas.

If Vargas have a legit power. He would have stun Manny Pacquiao.

Arum is probably shaking his head right now. Crawford is better than Vargas.

[.:: JSFD26 ::.]

Just take your emotions out of it for just a bit and try to see things objectively. The fact is Manny Pacquiao is now an old fighter. Tonight he looked like an old fighter and fought like an old fighter.

For one, he showed no finishing instincts and got nailed flush and rocked on several occasions by a fighter who cannot even hit. Also, he didn't throw nearly as many combination punches as he is accustomed to throwing. Lastly, he appeared slower and more lethargic than in his usual bouts.

This newer generation of welterweights, I'm afraid to say would potentially hurt him .

Take my emotions out of it a bit? And I am looking at it objectively. But it doesn't change the fact that a lot of what you said was wrong. He may had looked older but he looked FAR from shot as you stated then you proceeded to calling those guys elite. Wtf are you smoking? None of those guys are elite. Do you know the meaning of the word elite?

*EDIT* In case you dunno:
e·lite
əˈlēt,āˈlēt
noun
1.
a select part of a group that is superior to the rest in terms of ability or qualities.

[WesternChamp]

Who won? I didn't even watch my friends said it was a draw.

lol all that talk and you didnt watch the fight hahah!! sure..

let me guess you got drunk before the fight started? well, your in luck, vargas won!

[WesternChamp]

Pacquiao in his 3rd fight against Bradley > Pacquiao in his fight vs. Vargas.

If Vargas have a legit power. He would have stun Manny Pacquiao.

Arum is probably shaking his head right now. Crawford is better than Vargas.

once again, height and reach plays a big role. you keep ignoring this. "if vargas have legit power"?? i thought pac's chin is glass now anyways??

[RomanReigns]

once again, height and reach plays a big role. you keep ignoring this. "if vargas have legit power"?? i thought pac's chin is glass now anyways??

Vargas only have 10 KO's. Spence, Thurman, Brook, and Porter would destroy the Vargas who fought Manny. Manny's being past his prime made Vargas looked like a legit Welterweight Contender.

Crawford beat a much better fighter in Postol.

[Eff Pandas]

LOL Stephan Smith. They need to give these mfers an audition before throwing them on a live fight cuz that looked awful & unprofessional to have him announcing a PPV fight. Arum coulda hired a subpar NSBer for way less than he gave Smith + got better commentary.

As for the fight good enough win I guess. Manny not as impressive as expected, Vargas about as expected, result 100% as expected to the point I feel dumb for not throwing a nice pile of money on Manny W12 at -175 or whatever the line was. Hope Manny just calls it a career like after his last 2 fights, but at this point I think he's in it til he loses & probably loses badly. Can't imagine what Manny does next time out if its not Crawford as the TR roster seems lean on Manny opponents, but I feel like a next time is all but guaranteed.