Loeffler asks to extend bid date to WBA

[HeroBando]

There's a difference between a trainer wanting 12 weeks to fully prepare and a fighter being unfit to fight December 10th, with it being pretty common knowledge that said fighter has been in the gym since the start of October (fitness already worked on in "pre-camp", with a hard 6 weeks to lock-in on a fight, you're already talking about ten weeks in the gym).

The WBA has a current deadline of the mandatory defense having to be staged no later than January 12th.

Let's see what K2 does November 5th

What does this **** mean? They knew about the date for over a month, and now they're nowhere near ready for it. Everybody knows what that means

[Scipio2009]

Let's not forget you had Haymon stripping Ggg via Wade purse bid lol. Or made laughable predictions in just about every post, usually off by a factor if 3. This fits the mold

K2 paid Dominic Wade, a fighter with literally no wins of note beyond a debatable win over Sam Soliman, $500k, yet paid Willie Monroe Jr, a fighter that Golovkin tried to talk up and a fighter whom Abel Sanchez went public with talk of being a more meaningful fight than Lara, $100k.

You don't pay 5 times the money a guy had ever made in a fight, for any other reason but to make "an offer they can't refuse" and avoid bids.

Then again, you're either an idiot or a troll.

[US Dirk Killer]

Gennday Golovkin is the biggest fight that Al Haymon could openly negotiate for Daniel Jacobs, outside of a fight with Saul Alvarez (which is likely to never happen).

The fight has already been mandated, and Golovkin walking away from the fight will result in him having to give up one of his precious belts. Beyond that, though Jacobs is a good fighter in his own right, him having that wba belt keeps his name in the conversation (which would be greatly lessened were he to not have the belt).

Barclays Center is waiting to host the fight, and Stephen Espinoza is more than ready to put money behind bringing the fight to Showtime.

K2 taking the step to delay the bid makes it pretty clear that they don't see it being all that obvious that they'd win a bid on the open market.

We talking about GGG walking away from the fight now?
Oh Lord. Yea...okay
If GGG vacates his belt, after his all the belts campaign and investments they put in you can bury him. But lol at thinking he's going to be the one to drop a belt

[HeroBando]

K2 paid Dominic Wade, a fighter with literally no wins of note beyond a debatable win over Sam Soliman, $500k, yet paid Willie Monroe Jr, a fighter that Golovkin tried to talk up and a fighter whom Abel Sanchez went public with talk of being a more meaningful fight than Lara, $100k.

You don't pay 5 times the money a guy had ever made in a fight, for any other reason but to make "an offer they can't refuse" and avoid bids.

Then again, you're either an idiot or a troll.

He was due 25% if it went to purse bids. He took 20% instead, if anything they saved money. While you were going on and on how Ggg was gonna get stripped via purse bid lol. Always bringing the laughs

[Scipio2009]

So doesn't that tell you anything, you fcuking idiot? They wouldn't go higher for Wilder, who is more valuable and a bigger draw, with a hugely better purse split, a far better chance of winning, would lose meaningful home turf advantage with a losing bid, while Haymons funds were less scarce? Use your head for once?

Barclays Center is Daniel Jacobs' home venue, Golovkin has already 4 fights in NYC (while also showing that he can put bodies into a NYC venue), Showtime has made it rather obvious that they plan on making a pretty significant offer to air Golovkin-Jacobs, and there aren't that many other big options for Daniel Jacobs to consider. To flatly declare that Deontay Wilder dwarfs Daniel Jacobs in NYC is asinine.

Golovkin-Jacobs sells out Barclays Center (easily at the $500-$50 that they priced for Jacobs-Quillin) and Showtime lays out significant money (likely significantly more than HBO is currently willing to lay down). Add in the other revenues (international TV, event sponsors for a fight with two fighters with profiles in NYC, merch, etc) and you've got a sketch of what DiBella/Haymon are looking at.

This time, DiBella/Haymon aren't facing off against a promoter seemingly willing to lose $7m if it meant his fighter got the fight in Russia.

They are competing against K2; after "selling out MSG" and not disclosing what the live gate was for Golovkin-Lemieux, how much revenue are they earnestly looking at from MSG on Golovkin-Jacobs, and how much money is HBO willing to pay for the US rights to Golovkin-Jacobs (remember that Golovkin-Lemieux, at $3.5m guaranteed to the main event, was so expensive that HBO couldn't go with the fight without PPV, yet Jacobs-Quillin, at $3m to the main event, was put on Showtime with no hassle)?

All DiBella/Haymon has to do is bid $1 beyond what K2 seems comfortable budgeting for their HBO/MSG package for the fight; Barclays Center/Showtime, as a package, arguably puts more money in play anyway.

[Scipio2009]

What does this **** mean? They knew about the date for over a month, and now they're nowhere near ready for it. Everybody knows what that means

Daniel Jacobs is already in the gym, and has been in the gym since the start of October, after just finishing up a fight camp early September.

To seemingly earnestly believe that Daniel Jacobs wouldn't physically be ready by December makes the biases clear.

[HeroBando]

Daniel Jacobs is already in the gym, and has been in the gym since the start of October, after just finishing up a fight camp early September.

To seemingly earnestly believe that Daniel Jacobs wouldn't physically be ready by December makes the biases clear.

http://www.******.com/468769-jacobs-wont-fight-ggg-dec-10-says-trainer/

“From my fighter’s point of view, it’s not going to happen,” Rozier told THE RING of Dec. 10. “We haven’t really even started to gear up (for training) and we’re talking about six weeks to get it all together. Honestly, from my standpoint, I wouldn’t let him fight on Dec. 10. That’s just the bottom line. I would tell them we’re not fighting Dec. 10. It’s not enough time to prepare.”

How fcuking useless are you?

[OnePunch]

Daniel Jacobs is already in the gym, and has been in the gym since the start of October, after just finishing up a fight camp early September.

To seemingly earnestly believe that Daniel Jacobs wouldn't physically be ready by December makes the biases clear.

so let me see if I have this clear:

EVERY single word uttered from Abel Sanchez' mouth gets held against GGG, yet Jacobs trainer Rozier plainly states that Jacobs wont be ready for Dec 10, but anyone that believes him is somehow biased?

you are too much man......

[HeroBando]

Barclays Center is Daniel Jacobs' home venue, Golovkin has already 4 fights in NYC (while also showing that he can put bodies into a NYC venue), Showtime has made it rather obvious that they plan on making a pretty significant offer to air Golovkin-Jacobs, and there aren't that many other big options for Daniel Jacobs to consider. To flatly declare that Deontay Wilder dwarfs Daniel Jacobs in NYC is asinine.

Golovkin-Jacobs sells out Barclays Center (easily at the $500-$50 that they priced for Jacobs-Quillin) and Showtime lays out significant money (likely significantly more than HBO is currently willing to lay down). Add in the other revenues (international TV, event sponsors for a fight with two fighters with profiles in NYC, merch, etc) and you've got a sketch of what DiBella/Haymon are looking at.

This time, DiBella/Haymon aren't facing off against a promoter seemingly willing to lose $7m if it meant his fighter got the fight in Russia.

They are competing against K2; after "selling out MSG" and not disclosing what the live gate was for Golovkin-Lemieux, how much revenue are they earnestly looking at from MSG on Golovkin-Jacobs, and how much money is HBO willing to pay for the US rights to Golovkin-Jacobs (remember that Golovkin-Lemieux, at $3.5m guaranteed to the main event, was so expensive that HBO couldn't go with the fight without PPV, yet Jacobs-Quillin, at $3m to the main event, was put on Showtime with no hassle)?

All DiBella/Haymon has to do is bid $1 beyond what K2 seems comfortable budgeting for their HBO/MSG package for the fight; Barclays Center/Showtime, as a package, arguably puts more money in play anyway.

Why do you keep lying? The Lemieux gated was disclosed it was 2m. The Jacobs Quillin gate was not disclosed lol.

I see you haven't learned a thing from that lesson, dumb****. I know, math is hard, you're always off by 3x

[Scipio2009]

We talking about GGG walking away from the fight now?
Oh Lord. Yea...okay
If GGG vacates his belt, after his all the belts campaign and investments they put in you can bury him. But lol at thinking he's going to be the one to drop a belt

K2, I'd imagine, hopefully has a good idea for what they could expect to get from their revenue streams (HBO TV deal, MSG live gate, international money, etc) and it seems, from the long delays and negotiations upon negotiations, doesn't seem to have projected revenues large enough to pay Golovkin his fee (a figure that's likely at least $2m at this point) and still pay Daniel Jacobs enough to avoid a bid.

Beyond that, with HBO's budget being what it is (and only really investing money, at least recently, in Alvarez, Golovkin, Kovalev, and Ward), I sincerely doubt that HBO would actually allow Golovkin, a fighter that they've spent four years building up, to fight elsewhere (in clearly his toughest fight as a professional)and not have that impact the working relationship with HBO.

Because, logically speaking, the possible way forward is pretty easy if you believe the stories being spun; K2 goes to bid, bids $4m ($3m to Golovkin/$1m to Jacobs), Jacobs balks at the share for "being too low" and vacates, Golovkin makes the WBA mandatory defense against Blanco or makes a voluntary defense in December(pocketing the money that Alvarez left on the table), HBO gets another opportunity to sell the aura of Golovkin (this time with an actual fighter refusing the fight), the fight against Billy Joe Saunders to unify the division gets worked out for March/April, and you spend the summer promoting the Alvarez-Golovkin fight.

Is K2 willing to risk a 4-year broadcasting relationship with HBO and a September 2017 fight against Saul "Canelo" Alvarez (who mainlined his deal with HBO) over a WBA belt that, regardless of the media story that they push, they got handed to them? I'm not sure.