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  • robertzimmerman
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    #351
    Originally posted by SugarKaineHook
    to becoming 35 with a controversial resume..
    To becoming more popular.

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    • robertzimmerman
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      #352
      Originally posted by SugarKaineHook
      Alvarez made 900K PPV in 2016. stop trolling.

      Smith bombed? So you're admitting that Smith contributed to Alvarez's latest PPV or Alvarez did that all for himself because Smith was a ''no name?'' Did the boxing world sleep a whole year where a 154 WBO champ defended his belt twice?

      How was AT&T stadium btw? Is stadium attendance new to boxing? irrelevant? or is PPV the cherry picked statistic even though it did good for Alvarez' 2016 PPV Net total?
      I didn't say in 2016.

      I said he made 250,000-300,000 PPV's against Liam Smith.

      Those were good numbers. But it highlights that without a big name opponent like Floyd and Cotto, he doesn't do HUGE numbers. Which means that anyone who believes that Canelo should get 70-75% of the purse, is an absolute moron of the highest order.
      Last edited by robertzimmerman; 10-30-2016, 10:24 AM.

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        #353
        Originally posted by Mr.DagoWop
        The implication is your error. All I said was that Canelo's injury didn't help, if you think that means that is the only reason the fight didnt happen then the error is on you.

        Lmao you make it sound like my opinion is the end all be all of when these fights happen. I'm not GBP or the WBO. They could make Canelo number 1 mando at middleweight by February. I franky do not know.

        If the Jacobs negotiations are considered priority then I have very little faith in the Saunders negotiations. Saunders is 10x harder to deal with then Jacobs and they have been negotiating with Jacobs for 2 months.

        Again, Saunders has to fight 2 mandatories before he can consider Golovkin. Canelo is closer to number 1 spot than Golovkin is so even if K2 makes Saunders the number 1 priority it won't make a bit of difference until Saunders fights two mandos.
        We both know what you said.

        You have a habit of doing it.


        Again, even if Saunders has to take 2 mandatories, barring an injury, he'll be free early next year. His 2nd fight will probably happen in January-February. So he will be free to fight before Canelo is. And that would give K2 a big advantage.

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        • Lester Tutor
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          #354
          Originally posted by robertzimmerman
          I didn't say in 2016.

          I said he made 250,000-300,000 PPV's against Liam Smith.

          Those were good numbers. But it highlights that without a big name opponent like Floyd and Cotto, he doesn't do HUGE numbers. Which means that anyone who believes that Canelo should get 70-75% of the purse, is an absolute moron of the highest order.
          K2: ''Ok...so continuing our conversation about the Liam Smith circumstances...''
          GBP: ''why do you keep bringing up Liam Smith in our negotiations?''
          K2: ''we did 97k PPV...''
          GBP: ''and again, before we go any further...Alvarez has a net of 4.7 million PPV his entire career.''
          K2: ''...ummm, maybe it's time for lunch!''

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          • Mr.MojoRisin'
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            #355
            Originally posted by robertzimmerman
            You said he couldn't quadruple Canelo's purse.

            I gave you Miguel Cotto.


            Here's another one:

            Liam Smith.
            Canelo made 3.5 million guarantee against Liam Smith a literal no namer lol

            That is nowhere near his usual salary.

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            • Raonic
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              #356
              Originally posted by Mr.DagoWop
              How does GGG getting a flat fee undermine Canelo's side? The point of the flat fee was for Canelo to make more money.

              Also, you didn't say anything that related to what you highlighted.
              I should have worded better. I meant GGG being offered a flat fee is undermining him and if Canelo was offered a flat fee (the scenario brought up earlier) is undermining Canelo's side.

              Of course what I said is related if you bothered to read it.

              GGG needs Canelo to make a career payday. Canelo needs GGG to make a career payday. So only an idiot would say "GGG should accept a flat fee" when it's a double edged sword. Why does GGG have to the bad business deal when Canelo needs GGG as well?

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              • Mr.MojoRisin'
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                #357
                Originally posted by robertzimmerman
                We both know what you said.

                You have a habit of doing it.


                Again, even if Saunders has to take 2 mandatories, barring an injury, he'll be free early next year. His 2nd fight will probably happen in January-February. So he will be free to fight before Canelo is. And that would give K2 a big advantage.
                If I keep saying it then quote me on it otherwise shut up.

                BJS is not fighting this year. You are delusional if you think he is. He has an injury and the time it takes to negotiate a fight + an 8 week training camp wouldn't have him fighting until January and that is if his team makes a fight this week. BJS isn't about to go from fighting not once this year to twice by January. So again, you are delusional lmfao.

                Canelo will get mando spot deal with it.

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                  #358
                  Originally posted by robertzimmerman
                  I think Warren could negotiate with the WBO. But even if he can't, the first of those defences will be next month against a low level opponent. Both Frank and Billy have both said they want 2 back to back fights in quick succession. Which means that unless he gets injured, his 2nd fight will be early next year. All of which means that even if he has to face 2 mandatories next, he should be free for around March-April. Whereas we know Canelo wouldn't be free until around July onwards, unless he fights before his next proposed date in May.
                  Next month??? You're ****ing nuts! He isn't even in shape! BJS isn't fighting this year. His second fight won't be until March of next year which makes the earliest he will be free is in May. And that is if he makes a fight right now.

                  He literally just got into training camp a week ago.

                  Edit: Damn just found out he is fighting Akavov November 26. You right, you right.

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                  • robertzimmerman
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                    #359
                    Originally posted by SugarKaineHook
                    K2: ''Ok...so continuing our conversation about the Liam Smith circumstances...''
                    GBP: ''why do you keep bringing up Liam Smith in our negotiations?''
                    K2: ''we did 97k PPV...''
                    GBP: ''and again, before we go any further...Alvarez has a net of 4.7 million PPV his entire career.''
                    K2: ''...ummm, maybe it's time for lunch!''
                    I love it. It's very funny. But unfortunately, it's pure fantasy at this stage. Because Oscar doesn't want to sit down and discuss anything face to face. All he wants to do is play games through the media.

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                    • Mr.MojoRisin'
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                      #360
                      Originally posted by Raonic
                      I should have worded better. I meant GGG being offered a flat fee is undermining him and if Canelo was offered a flat fee (the scenario brought up earlier) is undermining Canelo's side.

                      Of course what I said is related if you bothered to read it.

                      GGG needs Canelo to make a career payday. Canelo needs GGG to make a career payday. So only an idiot would say "GGG should accept a flat fee" when it's a double edged sword. Why does GGG have to the bad business deal when Canelo needs GGG as well?
                      Canelo made 15-20 million against Khan when everything was all said and done. GGG made 5 million in the uk at a fight that sold out in 10 minutes when it was all said and done. Canelo's pay day against a welterweight was 3-4 times higher than GGG's.

                      10million is half of Canelo's salary for 1 fight against Amir ****ing Khan whereas 10 million is double Golovkin's biggest payday.

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