Who else can GGG fight for 10 million?

[robertzimmerman]

lol. What's Oscar's roster compared to Loeffler's? Oscar and Bhop don't need to waste their time with one hit wonder, K2. K2 have a funny defensive fan base

They don't need to waste their time with GG?

Apart from that it would be Canelo's biggest payday, and they're under huge pressure to make the fight?

[robertzimmerman]

That's exactly what I said. Thanks for giving the numbers too.

Like I said, Canelo makes a hell of a lot more than $15-20 million fighting GGG and GGG makes a hell of a lot more than $5 million fighting Canelo. But GGG needs Canelo more.

In a fight where the pot will be a hell of a lot bigger, why are we then limiting GGG to $10 million (2 times his purse, as you say) for Canelo to take in all the rest?

I'll give you the answer to your last question:

Because these jokers are completely biased.

[Mr.MojoRisin']

Well, again, you have to use common sense. Factoring in higher ticket sales (I'm sure it's easier to charge $100 for GGG-Jacobs than $100 for GGG-Monroe for the farthest seats), more viewers, MW ranking, it's easier to fill up a stadium (at a higher price), title, etc then it's easily justifiable that Jacobs gets more than those 2. There's also the easier thing to point to and that's the purse bid where Jacobs has to be paid 25% minimum anyway.

I didn't say it was the only reason, I said the main reason for a fighter's purse is their worth.

What do you think a promoter is thinking about when setting up a fight? A promoter makes a fight with the intention to get profit. That means he needs to set aside a certain amount of money for the purse (expenses) and obviously you need to divide those expenses between the 2 fighters and the main driving point on how to divide those is based on who's the bigger reason this makes more money.

It's obviously the driving point and you have to consider things like weight, titles, location, ranking in the division, etc.

The fact of the matter is, GGG is worth more $10 million to the fight economically. And there's not much to justify that would suggest you have to take away a few million from him he should be forced to take a flat fee instead.



Lol of course you have room to talk if it undermines you. Obviously GGG needs Canelo more than Canelo needs GGG but that doesn't mean he needs a bad business deal in the process.

I get that GGG's career payday would be $10 million. I get all of that. Instead of focusing on why doesn't accept a career payday flat fee, why don't you ask why Canelo doesn't offer more of the pot that GGG deserves?

All that needs to happen is for GGG to get a fair split of the pot and the fight happens. And if you think about it, fair is what we all want in life, right?

Yet for some reason, you want to blame the guy being offered the flat fee (which undermines his value to the fight) and opposed to the guy using his status to take money out of GGG's pocket? Because Canelo isn't just taking the lion's share. He's taking the lion's share AND then some by not offering GGG the flat fee.

Maybe the concept of getting ****d out of money you deserve is something you are willing to put up with in your life but I don't understand why you'd push it on other people.



Boxing doesn't really work that way. Canelo would still be the bigger draw and Canelo isn't going to accept being bent over for his money.

The "common sense" is where your bias comes in.

Yes, boxing does work that way. If you beat the biggest draw and become top dog then everyone wants to fight you. People won't fight GGG because he doesn't bring enough money. If he brought Canelo type money to the table he would have no problem getting a Saunders, Jacobs, or Eubank fight.

How much do you think Canelo will make off of this fight (rough estimate).

[Mr.MojoRisin']

What the hell are you talking about?

I'm delusional?

Billy is fighting on the 26th of November.

Also, I've just listened to a recent interview with Frank Warren, and he says that the WBO have allowed him to have a voluntary afterwards.

Yup I just checked, I thought the fight was off due to the injury. You right.

[Mr.MojoRisin']

Canelo's guarantee was $3.5 mil regardless of who he fought. Doesn't mean he's worth the $3.5 mil against Liam Smith but he would've gotten paid that amont regardless.

He still makes 3.5 mill any which way you look at it.

[robertzimmerman]

I think the fight is 35-65 or 40-60 with Canelo taking the lion's share, but GGG isn't being offered upside. When it's all said and done, Canelo probably walks out with like $50 million to GGG's $10 mil.

Never mind the fact Khan made $12 million compared to Canelo's $20 million (which, if you think about it sounds pretty fair overall). But GGG needs to take $10 million compared to the $50 million Canelo probably takes home.

Exactly.

These guys are absolute jokers.

[Lester Tutor]

They don't need to waste their time with GG?

Apart from that it would be Canelo's biggest payday, and they're under huge pressure to make the fight?

seeing how they blast an attendance at AT&T stadium and the ''no-name'' as you suggest might have a sense of Euphoria for such promotions... stop defending Loeffler. I'm happy Loeffler hasn'T made a statement in the press that they're willing to sit and discuss the ''8 figures.''

[robertzimmerman]

He still makes 3.5 mill any which way you look at it.

Correct. But unless the fights do great numbers, he's not going to be paid significantly more. So a GG fight would definitely quadruple some of his overall purses that he's made.

[robertzimmerman]

seeing how they blast an attendance at AT&T stadium and the ''no-name'' as you suggest might have a sense of Euphoria for such promotions... stop defending Loeffler. I'm happy Loeffler hasn'T made a statement in the press that they're willing to sit and discuss the ''8 figures.''

It wouldn't surprise me if you didn't want to see the fight, just so you could hate on GG.

[Lester Tutor]

It wouldn't surprise me if you didn't want to see the fight, just so you could hate on GG.

I already said Alvarez beats Golovkin long ago. It's my opinion, and I've given Gennady all his props on skill at NSB. I just don'T fancy the gimmick from K2 and Abel. Hate the messengers of Gennady and get with the program. Gennady deserves better representation. It's obvious industry is getting tired of Abel and Loeffler. As time goes on other great scraps are at play. That's just how boxing seasons work.

Hyped for Kova vs Ward. Cruz vs Frampton II. Gonzalez vs Cuadras II. Garcia vs Thurman. Charlo vs Williams. Bhop vs Smith Jr. Pacquiao vs Vargas.