Who else can GGG fight for 10 million?

[robertzimmerman]

hey ggg is the one who dont want to sign that contract to face canelo not the other way around lmfao.

No team signs anything a year out, especially without meeting face to face to discuss the specifics.

Get real you fool.

What's happened is hardly a surprise. Nobody conducts business in that manner. It's completely pointless until they meet up next year in person.

[Mr.MojoRisin']

You must have misread some other article on the $3/buy. But now you know he got upside for Cotto, and Floyd, and gave upside to Khan. And that's the point, flat fees don't apply for the biggest fight in the sport.

Proof? Canelo took that fight for easy money.

[Mr.MojoRisin']

What point are you trying to make exactly?

Everyone's circumstances are different.

Canelo was happy to fight Cotto for the amount he signed for. He's young, Cotto was the champ, and he had a great chance to win a prestigious belt from a guy who'd seen better days. Cotto never really belonged anywhere near MW. He only beat Martinez, because Martinez was finished as an elite fighter.

GG's circumstances are completely different. GG is the 'Man' of the division. He holds all but one of the main belts. Apart from financial gain, he has nothing to gain and everything to lose. He's 34 and he wants paying fairly from a fight which will generate millions of dollars in PPV revenue. He wants the best deal possible.

How hard is that to understand?

Canelo could afford to take that percentage against Cotto. GG can't.

A fighter and his team has to weigh everything up.

It's foolish to make direct comparisons.

Do you think Canelo and Oscar would accept the same deal if they were in his position?

He's obviously your alt because that post wasn't to you. That was between me and the guy I replied to so unless you share identical opinions with him on the sport of boxing (which probably means he is your alt) then this wouldn't make sense to to argue about.

GGG wants to legitimize himself as a champ. He has beaten nobody aside from Lemieux who held a belt. Matter of fact that is the only main belt that GGG legit won. He was given the super WBA title and was given the WBC title.

GGG seeks big fights. Canelo doesn't need him he needs Canelo what don't you get about that? Canelo can make money without GGG's belts. He fights Brook and Saunders in 2017, Jacobs and Eubank Jr in 2018, then by the time 2019 comes around Canelo has the WBO belt and GGG is old or retired.

Canelo has plenty of fights he can make. GGG struggles to make a mandatory fight happen.

[robertzimmerman]

If Canelo lost he would no longer be a superstar. If GGG won he would be propelled into super stardom and would be calling the shots.

Are you telling GBP how to conduct themselves now? You were never there for even one of there negotiations. Lol stop.

GGG can't afford to pay his opponents 3 million dollars not to mention 10 million. He brings in no money. He is in no bargaining position at all. GGG sells **** ppv and that is a fact. He can sell out an arena but he can't sell on HBO which is where it counts.

It absolutely matters what a fighter has made before. A guy offers to quadruple your salary you don't tell him to **** off. This fight isn't going to be made in september because GGG's team is nonnegotiable.

Canelo's not expected to win and he's only in his 20's.

A loss doesn't really damage his marketability.

GG is expected to win. A loss would be devastating.


Why are you laughing regarding the actions of GBP??

Do you seriously think any businessman would accept a flat fee from an untrustworthy company, a year out, without even meeting face to face to discuss the specifics? Wake up! Oscar is just trying to fool naive fans into believing they're trying to make things happen. It's complete BS.


GG is in no bargaining position at all? Get real. He has most of the MW belts, and he brings Canelo more money than he can make with anyone else apart from Floyd. If he takes Jacobs and BJS out of the equation, Canelo would have nobody else to fight at MW, with unbearable pressure on his shoulders.


You're living in a complete fantasy.

If Oscar was genuine, he'd negotiate face to face in privacy. He is the reason why the fight is not happening yet, not because K2 haven't accepted a BS flat fee offer.

[robertzimmerman]

Proof? Canelo took that fight for easy money.

Which is what he did for Cotto.

[HeroBando]

Proof? Canelo took that fight for easy money.

Every article on the payout says they both get upside for example

http://www.badlefthook.com/2016/5/6/11614214/canelo-vs-khan-purse-details-for-full-hbo-ppv-card

He's not fighting Canelo for 2m flat, projections were 13m lol. But it was a dud so not much in upside for either guy.

[Mr.MojoRisin']

Canelo's not expected to win and he's only in his 20's.

A loss doesn't really damage his marketability.

GG is expected to win. A loss would be devastating.


Why are you laughing regarding the actions of GBP??

Do you seriously think any businessman would accept a flat fee from an untrustworthy company, a year out, without even meeting face to face to discuss the specifics? Wake up! Oscar is just trying to fool naive fans into believing they're trying to make things happen. It's complete BS.


GG is in no bargaining position at all? Get real. He has most of the MW belts, and he brings Canelo more money than he can make with anyone else apart from Floyd. If he takes Jacobs and BJS out of the equation, Canelo would have nobody else to fight at MW, with unbearable pressure on his shoulders.


You're living in a complete fantasy.

If Oscar was genuine, he'd negotiate face to face in privacy. He is the reason why the fight is not happening yet, not because K2 haven't accepted a BS flat fee offer.

And the moon landings were faked, Hitler died in '54, Paul died in '66, Jim Morrison faked his own death, and Bush did 9/11.

[Mr.MojoRisin']

Every article on the payout says they both get upside for example

http://www.badlefthook.com/2016/5/6/11614214/canelo-vs-khan-purse-details-for-full-hbo-ppv-card

He's not fighting Canelo for 2m flat, projections were 13m lol. But it was a dud so not much in upside for either guy.

You said Khan made more off of ppv than Canelo and I asked for proof. You didn't provide it.

[robertzimmerman]

He's obviously your alt because that post wasn't to you. That was between me and the guy I replied to so unless you share identical opinions with him on the sport of boxing (which probably means he is your alt) then this wouldn't make sense to to argue about.

GGG wants to legitimize himself as a champ. He has beaten nobody aside from Lemieux who held a belt. Matter of fact that is the only main belt that GGG legit won. He was given the super WBA title and was given the WBC title.

GGG seeks big fights. Canelo doesn't need him he needs Canelo what don't you get about that? Canelo can make money without GGG's belts. He fights Brook and Saunders in 2017, Jacobs and Eubank Jr in 2018, then by the time 2019 comes around Canelo has the WBO belt and GGG is old or retired.

Canelo has plenty of fights he can make. GGG struggles to make a mandatory fight happen.

Another nonsense post.


An alt?

It's a boxing forum.

Are we only allowed to post when in direct conversation?

Why the **** would anyone have an alt anyway?

I've never heard of anything as sad.


Canelo has plenty of fights he can make because he's young. But that doesn't mean they're going to be relevant fights that make huge money.

Again, GG has a real chance to fight Jacobs and BJS first. If those fights were to happen and GG were to win, it would take them out of the equation. There'd be no point in Canelo fighting them until some time down the line if they became relevant again.


You're going to be in for a huge shock if GG beats Jacobs and BJS. If that happens within the next 6-12 months, Canelo would have nowhere to go at MW. Yes, he could fight guys like Brook for a nice pay day, but then what? He's just had to strip naked to fight Smith. He'll soon be relinquishing his WBO belt. Have you got any idea of the pressure he'd be under to fight GG at MW, if he commits to the division and GG has all of the belts? Fans won't back him to fight other guys. I think you're also deluded if you think Oscar would let him face Saunders and Jacobs anytime soon.

[HeroBando]

You said Khan made more off of ppv than Canelo and I asked for proof. You didn't provide it.

No, I said Khan was offered ppv upside, unlike Ggg. And that wasn't the biggest fight in the sport. You keep making reading mistakes, 2 articles and my short post.

Found this link for your education. Very interesting

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.yahoo.com/amphtml/sports/news/what-canelo-alvarez-s-knockout-win-of-amir-khan-means-for-boxing-054532923.html

Cotto had a 55-45 revenue split edge per contract in the fight, because he came in as the champion. But several days before the fight, Cotto dumped the belt because he was in a dispute with the sanctioning body over the amount he had to pay in fees.

So Alvarez, who paid the fees that night, could win it and Cotto could not. Afterward, when it came to splitting the revenues, Golden Boy wanted to change the 55-45 split in favor of Cotto since he was technically no longer the champion when the fight happened.