Who else can GGG fight for 10 million?

[Mr.MojoRisin']

I literally have no clue how you got to that conclusion at all.

I said the pay a fighter gets should be relative to the context of the fight being discussed (not what he got paid his last fight or what someone else got paid in another fight). I'm obviously not going to argue Canelo pay a journeyman more than $10 million if they don't deserve it. But that's not exactly the case here.

If someone was foolish enough to get underpaid in 1 fight, I don't see why that has to be the blueprint for the next guy to come along. So if Canelo got paid 5% of a purse split against Mayweather, I could give a damn when talking about other fights. Canelo obviously would've deserved more than 5% and I wouldn't have opposed him if he argued for more. But he accepted it and that's a decision he made so I don't see why he has to try and apply the same blueprint and force someone else to make the same decisions he did.

I mean if guys GGG/Canelo/Manny/Floyd/etc accepted to fight for $1.00, then that's on them but I'd not going to criticize them if they argue for a purse that's higher than what they were offered so long as it's justified and what they deserve.

You are saying that GGG should be paid a fair share. Should all fighters be paid a fair share or does this only apply to Golovkin? I am using an unknown as an example, instead of 10 million lets say $100,000. What if Canelo wanted to fight a journeyman (unknown) for $100,000? The fight would obviously make many millions of dollars as seen with the Khan fight. Let's say it made 10 million which is a conservative figure. Canelo would be paying the guy 1%. Is that fair? Should the journeyman be paid more even if he works his ass off in the gym every day? Canelo gets 9.9 million while the other guy gets $100,000 is that fair?

[robertzimmerman]

GGG's end won't increase and like I said 10 million is more than Canelo has ever made. He got half of that for the Cotto fight which was huge. GGG-Canelo would barely be bigger than that fight if anything not as big.

Point is there is almost nobody else GGG can fight for even half that not to mention 10 mill. When you're making 2.5 mill per fight and a guy comes along and offers you 4x that then you don't say no, you make the fight happen yesterday. GGG is supposed to beat Canelo right? He has all to gain, Canelo is taking all the risk.

What difference does it make if $10m is more than what Canelo has ever made?

Times change.

Different circumstances.

GG has just made $5m against Brook.

Yes, you do say no when your team hasn't even sat down and discussed any specifics face to face. Nobody accepts anything without discussing things face to face, especially as the fight is 12 months away. Businessman don't conduct themselves in that manner.

Oscar's offer just shows that they're not serious at this point.

What risk is Canelo taking? He's significantly younger, he's moving up in weight, and he has no belts. If he loses, it's not the end of the world.

If GG lost, it would be catastrophic for his career. Apart from financial gain, he has everything to lose.

[KillaCamNZ]

I'd fight him for $30 and a can of diet coke.

[robertzimmerman]

ggg ducking, lol I wonder if rosado is available at a catchweight for ggg again.

I wonder if your man will strip naked to fight another JMW, because he's not ready to play with the big boys?

[Mr.MojoRisin']

Are you sure you read that article?

Canelo only made $3 per ppv buy on the khan fight. Definitely didn't clear over 10 million on ppv buys not even counting what Cotto made from them.

[robertzimmerman]

I literally have no clue how you got to that conclusion at all.

I said the pay a fighter gets should be relative to the context of the fight being discussed (not what he got paid his last fight or what someone else got paid in another fight). I'm obviously not going to argue Canelo pay a journeyman more than $10 million if they don't deserve it. But that's not exactly the case here.

If someone was foolish enough to get underpaid in 1 fight, I don't see why that has to be the blueprint for the next guy to come along. So if Canelo got paid 5% of a purse split against Mayweather, I could give a damn when talking about other fights. Canelo obviously would've deserved more than 5% and I wouldn't have opposed him if he argued for more. But he accepted it and that's a decision he made so I don't see why he has to try and apply the same blueprint and force someone else to make the same decisions he did.

I mean if guys GGG/Canelo/Manny/Floyd/etc accepted to fight for $1.00, then that's on them but I'd not going to criticize them if they argue for a purse that's higher than what they were offered so long as it's justified and what they deserve.

This is a great post.

Full of logic.

I'm sick of seeing people doing direct comparisons, without allowing for circumstances.

Who cares what Canelo made 3 years ago as a young kid against Floyd?

It has no real relevance here when discussing GG-Canelo.

GG is supposed to accept Oscar's BS offer, just because Canelo accepted less against Cotto?

That's not how it works.

The past is the past, and again, everyone's circumstances are different.

[.!WAR MIKEY!.]

I wonder if your man will strip naked to fight another JMW, because he's not ready to play with the big boys?

hey ggg is the one who dont want to sign that contract to face canelo not the other way around lmfao.

[Mr.MojoRisin']

What difference does it make if $10m is more than what Canelo has ever made?

Times change.

Different circumstances.

GG has just made $5m against Brook.

Yes, you do say no when your team hasn't even sat down and discussed any specifics face to face. Nobody accepts anything without discussing things face to face, especially as the fight is 12 months away. Businessman don't conduct themselves in that manner.

Oscar's offer just shows that they're not serious at this point.

What risk is Canelo taking? He's significantly younger, he's moving up in weight, and he has no belts. If he loses, it's not the end of the world.

If GG lost, it would be catastrophic for his career. Apart from financial gain, he has everything to lose.

If Canelo lost he would no longer be a superstar. If GGG won he would be propelled into super stardom and would be calling the shots.

Are you telling GBP how to conduct themselves now? You were never there for even one of there negotiations. Lol stop.

GGG can't afford to pay his opponents 3 million dollars not to mention 10 million. He brings in no money. He is in no bargaining position at all. GGG sells **** ppv and that is a fact. He can sell out an arena but he can't sell on HBO which is where it counts.

It absolutely matters what a fighter has made before. A guy offers to quadruple your salary you don't tell him to **** off. This fight isn't going to be made in september because GGG's team is nonnegotiable.

[HeroBando]

Canelo only made $3 per ppv buy on the khan fight. Definitely didn't clear over 10 million on ppv buys not even counting what Cotto made from them.

You must have misread some other article on the $3/buy. But now you know he got upside for Cotto, and Floyd, and gave upside to Khan. And that's the point, flat fees don't apply for the biggest fight in the sport.

[robertzimmerman]

You are saying that GGG should be paid a fair share. Should all fighters be paid a fair share or does this only apply to Golovkin? I am using an unknown as an example, instead of 10 million lets say $100,000. What if Canelo wanted to fight a journeyman (unknown) for $100,000? The fight would obviously make many millions of dollars as seen with the Khan fight. Let's say it made 10 million which is a conservative figure. Canelo would be paying the guy 1%. Is that fair? Should the journeyman be paid more even if he works his ass off in the gym every day? Canelo gets 9.9 million while the other guy gets $100,000 is that fair?

What point are you trying to make exactly?

Everyone's circumstances are different.

Canelo was happy to fight Cotto for the amount he signed for. He's young, Cotto was the champ, and he had a great chance to win a prestigious belt from a guy who'd seen better days. Cotto never really belonged anywhere near MW. He only beat Martinez, because Martinez was finished as an elite fighter.

GG's circumstances are completely different. GG is the 'Man' of the division. He holds all but one of the main belts. Apart from financial gain, he has nothing to gain and everything to lose. He's 34 and he wants paying fairly from a fight which will generate millions of dollars in PPV revenue. He wants the best deal possible.

How hard is that to understand?

Canelo could afford to take that percentage against Cotto. GG can't.

A fighter and his team has to weigh everything up.

It's foolish to make direct comparisons.

Do you think Canelo and Oscar would accept the same deal if they were in his position?