Who else can GGG fight for 10 million?

[robertzimmerman]

He scared he wont take his biggiest payday, he can fight a bunch of cans for 5 years to add up to this payday if he likes (which I actually think he does like).

Shut up you clown.

The fight will generate millions and his team are trying to get him the best deal.

Your boys promoter said to Loeffler: "Stand by your phone on Monday morning"

Yet he then called Frank Warren instead to arrange a fight with Liam Smith.

Pathetic.

Yet K2 are supposed to agree to a flat fee, 12 months out?

Get real.

[robertzimmerman]

Nothing silly about it at all...simple question where does GGG go ??? fight Saunders and end his career fighting mandatories?

Where does Canelo go?

He'll not fight at JMW again.

If GG beats Saunders and Jacobs, he takes the last remaining belts, and he takes those guys out of the equation for Canelo to fight.

If that were to happen, Canelo can't fight any other big fights at MW, and he can't fight anybody else for a belt. Not only that, he would be under immense pressure to fight GG.

The only thing he can do is fight Saunders first in the hope of winning the WBO belt which would give him huge leverage and would buy him time. But it would be a huge risk for him to fight Saunders.

Although Canelo will always have a huge fan base and he's significantly younger than GG, he hasn't got a lot of options. He's currently out injured and his first fight at MW will probably be a soft touch, possibly at a CW.

GG will also have the option of moving up to SMW.

[robertzimmerman]

This is a ****** argument perpetuated by people who want to see Golovkin get screwed, no matter how.

1 - this fight is possible for a year from now. This joke of an offer was made by Oscar as a publicity stunt "well, we tried to fight him but he rejected us". The real negotiations wont happen for several more months. Everything you hear until ~March or April will be fluff.
2 - virtually nobody in the history of big PPVs has ever taken a flat fee offer. When Floyd bent for Oscar, he still made $25M to Oscar's $42 (or 43 forget). And make no mistake about it - this will be the best selling fight of the year.
3 - There's a widespread falsehood that "Canelo doesn't need Golovkin". He very, very much does. His reputation has taken a huge hit recently. He's been criticized to high heaven for the last 6 months, and his PPV viewership has taken significant hits over it. From ~900k PPV with Cotto, to ~450k with Khan, to less than 300k for Smith. 300k ppv buys generate $21M of revenues, which becomes $10.5M after network fees. Add 3-4m for gate, and you basically have ~$13-14m for all purses and expenses.
Even if HBO agrees to continue putting on these low selling PPVs (which I highly, highly doubt) Canelo's purses will be limited to that ~$8m range.

Canelo needs Golovkin just as much. He needs him to generate huge PPV revenue, and he needs him to restore his reputation. If Golovkin holds a press conference tomorrow and says "I'm tired of waiting for these little girls, I'm retiring", Canelo instantly becomes Rid**** Bowe #2. He'll NEVER live that duck down.


Both Golovkin, K2, and virtually every professional fighter and promoter has rightfully said that this offer was not serious. Here's Arum: "A flat fee is bull****." and here's Marquez doesn’t see it as a serious offer from Golden Boy Promotions, as he feels that a serious offer would be for Golovkin to be given a percentage offer of 30-40% of the revenue

EVERYONE knows it's a joke except for the golovkin hate squad. Some moron yesterday said he was happy that by Jacobs postponing the fight, he's happy that golovkin is getting screwed. Some of you guys are pathetic.

An absolutely outstanding post.

Full of truth and logic.

Unfortunately, it'll be wasted on some of these morons.

[robertzimmerman]

You made my point.

Canelo can do the same without GGG.

Canelo will ALWAYS outsell GGG.

Canelo's options are running out.

[robertzimmerman]

No one unless floyd comes back and throws a curveball saying he wants GGG which isnt gonna happen. At first i thought he was right for rejecting the flat fee , but he really should just accept it and whoop canelos ass then be the A side in the rematch. Win win.

The offer was a joke, and there wouldn't be a rematch if he whooped him.

[robertzimmerman]

You're crazy, Jacobs doesn't deserve more than 25% just like Golovkin doesn't for Canelo. Fighters need to realise their worth. Actually i think they do and just don't think the risk is worth the reward and price themselves out.

What a joke.

On what planet does Canelo deserve 75% of the purse against GG?

Sure, he has a bigger fan base, but 75%?

It's ridiculous.

[robertzimmerman]

This ^^^^^

Why should he accept that, when he's got other options and he can hold out for more?

[robertzimmerman]

But Manny was already a huge star himself and had others in his division to fight..GGG has no other good options

Oscar's not going to put Canelo in the ring with the likes of BJS and Jacobs. So GG has got better options at MW than Canelo. And if GG can beat those guys, it takes them out of the equation and gives him every belt in the division, leaving Canelo with absolutely nowhere to go, apart from a return to JMW. (if he could make the weight)

[robertzimmerman]

Maybe fighting the ishidas, wades and monroe's 3-4 times a year is good enough for him. That's almost $10 mil combined

What would be good for him, would be if Canelo, Jacobs and BJS, GENUINELY wanted to fight him.

[robertzimmerman]

Imagine if Kovalev took this position with Cleverly? Instead he took the **** deal, beat dat ass, and look where he is at.

Ha!

How on earth can you compare Kov-Clev to a GG-Canelo fight?

Do you not realise the huge difference in circumstances?