Who else can GGG fight for 10 million?

[robertzimmerman]

The Eubanks fight is a joke. Saunders has the WBO belt but, in all honesty, Canelo gets the Saunders fight before Bumlovkin does. So where does that leave the Triple Duck?

What makes you so sure that Canelo lands BJS first?

He's currently out injured and he'll probably return in May of next year. That will mean he'll have been out for 8 months. Do you really think Oscar would put him in the ring against BJS at his first fight at MW? Although it would give them a lot of leverage if they were to win, it would also be a huge risk. I'd expect Oscar to give him a B-C class opponent for his first MW fight.

[robertzimmerman]

NO, he very much doesn't.

Canelo Saunders is a bigger fight seeing as BJS brings the UK money with him.

Bumlovkin, OTOH, brings 97K PPVs.

Alvarez doesn't need the Triple Duck..

He needs him to make his biggest pay day and he's under enormous pressure to take the fight.

BJS' WBO belt is the only leverage Canelo would have.

If GG could beat BJS first, Canelo would have absolutely nowhere to go at MW.

[LoadedWraps]

Silly thread. That's not how you negotiate a fight.

Show us how you negotiate a fight stuff jones

[robertzimmerman]

Pacquiao and Cotto are both big PPV draws on their own.

How many PPVs did Bumlovkin sell in his last appearance on US PPV TV?

Like I said, Alvarez Pacquiao and Alvarez Cotto II are bigger money fights than Alvarez Bumlovkin. It really aint even close...

Forget about his last U.S. PPV's.

They're now in the past.

GG is becoming bigger with each fight.

I think a Canelo-Manny fight could be bigger than a GG fight, but how realistic is that?

I don't think a Cotto rematch would do that well to be honest.

[robertzimmerman]

Bumlovkin doesn't have the luxury of playing the waiting game, IMO. He'll be *35* - or a month or two short of it - by the time he gets in the ring again. His sell by date swiftly approaches. They need to take the deal for Sept 2017 and just fight a couple of soft touches until then. Bumlovkin should stay away from Jacobs - he potentially spoils the big payday...

In the same way that BJS can spoil a big payday for Canelo.

[Raonic]

An American who is of African decent. American isn't an ethnicity.

Nationality just signifies what country you are from.

And that's exactly what I said. That my nationality (not ethnicity) is Canadian.

[robertzimmerman]

Nobody. GGG will never make that kind of money without ginger. ever

He should take the chance, beat Canelo and then demand for a bigger slice in the rematch

Canelo is the A side now and thats the cold hard truth

He's just made $5m for Brook.

He could potentially earn more if he moved up in weight at some point.

K2 are right to hold out for a better deal, especially as he could hold all the belts at MW by this time next year, which would leave Canelo with nobody else to fight at the weight.

Also, a lot of people are assuming there'd be a rematch. But if GG won convincingly and/or hurt him bad, then there wouldn't be one. Oscar wouldn't allow it.

[Mr.MojoRisin']

And that's exactly what I said. That my nationality (not ethnicity) is Canadian.

You said Canadian doesn't signify country it signifies nationality. Nationality=country which you did not say.

[Raonic]

The two industries aren't subject to the same variables so no they are not comparable. GGG will not get more than 10 mill down the road if the fight happens in september. Canelo doesn't have him too high as a priority to fight so GGG refusing offers is fine with him. Canelo will fight Brook and Saunders before GGG at this rate which means the GGG fight won't happen until 2018 at best because Canelo isn't fighting 3 times in 1 year with GGG as one of them. Hell, he won't even fight 3x in one year without him lol.

The principles in making the business decision are the same despite the differing variables.

And what he's doing is calling out that bluff. He's not rejecting a chance at $10 million for Canelo because he doesn't want to fight Canelo. He's rejecting it because he believes there's a better business deal to be made. And even if the fight happens in 2018 (which would prove that Canelo is delaying/ducking the fight), he's risking the chance of losing the fight but the money upside is likely more preferable to GGG (which was my point). If it happens in 2019 and still the exact same thing that GGG still probably walks away with more than $10 million most likely if they can agree to a fight. The worst GGG can do in a fight against Canelo is $10 million, and since he's already at that point, all he's trying to do is nagivate himself up for a higher split of the pot.

I mean sure there's always the possibility that Canelo doesn't fight GGG, but all that does it prove Canelo doesn't want the fight more than anything else (offering someone $10 million but you need 3-4 fights in between is telling enough as it is). We all lose if the fight doesn't happen but it's pretty foolish to blame 1 side for not accepting a clearly unfair offer relative to the value he brings.

[robertzimmerman]

Ginger is the cash cow of boxing right now

he has plenty of options, excluding Pac and GGG, anyone else from 147 to 160 would line up for that payday. He can make plenty of moolah without GGG

people who think Canelo truly needs GGG are delusional, he could fight a couple more Liam Smiths and make about the same $$$ hed make against GGG, with much more ease

Im a GGG fan but his team needs to realize the fact that Canelo is the A-side and GGG is the b-side by a long shot

only after he beats Canelo he will be able to dictate the term

Canelo hasn't got a lot of options.

He's out injured.

When he comes back, he'll be under immense pressure to fight GG. Again, if GG has beaten Jacobs and BJS at that point, there won't be any other big relevant fights for him at MW.

Could he comfortably make JMW next year? He had to strip naked for Smith.

Would the public back him to fight again at JMW?

Other than a BJS fight or a CW against the likes of Brook, his options are limited. But I just don't see Oscar putting him in with BJS. I think it would be too risky at this stage.