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  • -2 Scrappy-
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    #11
    Originally posted by IMDAZED
    All of these UFC fans so quick to tell you how boxing is dying and UFC is taking over. That's how I can tell they aren't real boxing fans. Because one thing I've noticed about real boxing fans as it relates to UFC and its impact...they don't care.
    People cant be fans of both? Nobody even said anything about boxing dying. Now your just being insecure.

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      #12
      Originally posted by bigtyivier2k2
      I used to hate UFC but in the last year i started getting into it because a few of my friends love it. Obviously i dont like it anywhere close to boxing but after hearing that GGG is off Dec 10th card, Klit vs Joshua isnt happening, Danny Garcia gets another cherry pick.. I am getting quite fed up with boxing. I buy most of the big ppv's but enough is enough already. As fans of boxing we don't deserve this **** anymore. meanwhile in the UFC the top guys are constantly fighting top guys and you never quite know who will win.

      Thank god for Kovalev and Ward, and Lomochenko Walters otherwise this year will go down as crap. We should be getting fights like Canelo GGG, GGG jacobs, Pacquiao Crawford, Pacquiao vs Vargas etc instead we get Canelo vs Khan, smith GGG vs Brook and other crap mismatches. Like step the **** up already because boxing is becoming an embarrassing circus that I am getting frustrated being a part of already. Seems liek 9 out of 10 top fighters are constantly cherry picking and ducking. The next big UFC even is in my hometown NY and the card is stacked from top to bottom with ridiculous fights. Whens the last time boxing had a stacked card? Boxing hardly gives us a top dog vs top dog main event let alone a stacked card with top fighters.

      Sorry I just had to vent as I read about GGG not fighting on Dec 10 and Jacobs trainer saying Jacobs needs 12 weeks to train for GGG. GROW SOME ****ING BALLS already this is the fight game not table tennis.

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      • IMDAZED
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        #13
        Originally posted by -2 Scrappy-
        People cant be fans of both? Nobody even said anything about boxing dying. Now your just being insecure.
        Who said you can't? And you calling someone insecure?

        Plenty of people who tout the UFC also claim that boxing is dying. Even the TS says boxing is now an embarrassing circus. Guess what? Many boxing fans are mad. Many are disgusted. Most don't relate it or connect it with UFC or MMA or whateverit's call. They just don't.

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          #14
          Originally posted by pacmanis1
          This last year it has been hard to defend boxing. The funny part is the fans that say "go ahead and leave, we won't miss you." Yeah we'll maybe you guys won't, but I'm sure the people putting on the fights will. Guess what happens to PBC when fewer and fewer people tune in to see some mismatch. What happens to HBO's boxing budget when fewer and fewer people are tuning in?

          If hardcore fans are throwing up there hands and starting to say enough is enough, what do you think the casual who's just looking to watch a fight every once in a while is thinking?

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            #15
            For me the biggest detriment to boxing is the fact that many of your hardcore fans on here justify boxing when it gives us bullshyt. The TS is right. The UFC is running like a well-oiled machine and boxing has given us garbage this year. So many proposed year fights are being cancelled, one by one. Why should a hardcore or especially casual fan give a damn?

            I know we have Kovalev-Ward and Lomachenko-Walters(both of which I must add, won't be big money makers), but other than those two, it's looking bleak. Boxing fans deserve better than this crap and anyone who says we don't must be satisfied with BS. Maybe boxing isn't dying, but it sure as hell isn't thriving.

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              #16
              This thread should be from 2009 , UFC already did

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                #17
                Originally posted by IMDAZED
                Who said you can't? And you calling someone insecure?

                Plenty of people who tout the UFC also claim that boxing is dying. Even the TS says boxing is now an embarrassing circus. Guess what? Many boxing fans are mad. Many are disgusted. Most don't relate it or connect it with UFC or MMA or whateverit's call. They just don't.
                It's called a comparison. 2 combat sports, one doing multiple million plus PPV per year, matching top contender against champion on a almost consistent basis and one where the so called face of the sport draws 250,000-300,000 PPV and the other gets anywhere from 97-150k and instead of seeing the top guys fight we get these ducks running away from big fights and then complaining why theyre not more well known.


                For every Ward-Kovalev we get the UFC puts on 5 shows just like it or better.
                I'll never give up on boxing but I'm a 40 year old guy and have been following before the UFC existed in the mainstream, guys I work with that are 20 couldn't care less about boxing and it's all about the UFC. So good luck bringing new fans in when we get older and fade away putting on garbage fights all the time that nobody gives a fk about while your competition is destroying you with quality fights.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by anthonydavid11
                  For me the biggest detriment to boxing is the fact that many of your hardcore fans on here justify boxing when it gives us bullshyt. The TS is right. The UFC is running like a well-oiled machine and boxing has given us garbage this year. So many proposed year fights are being cancelled, one by one. Why should a hardcore or especially casual fan give a damn?

                  I know we have Kovalev-Ward and Lomachenko-Walters(both of which I must add, won't be big money makers), but other than those two, it's looking bleak. Boxing fans deserve better than this crap and anyone who says we don't must be satisfied with BS. Maybe boxing isn't dying, but it sure as hell isn't thriving.
                  Mentioned at start of 2016, and Natas mentioned earlier, that with the retirement of Floyd and Pac (yes he's back but...) cotto, Wlad, JMM, and others at the end that boxing was going to go through a "build" period and thats what this was IMO.
                  -WW seems to be getting hot with Porter, Brook if he's stays, Broner if he can stay "healthy", Garcia, Thurman, Spence and others. Bradley has Arum working with Haymon, possible Crawford....
                  -154 Charlos, Lara, Hurd, Jrock, etc...
                  -160 is much more difficult but can have a jacobs, saunders, GGG, canelo round robin if they figure out how to play together
                  -175 having a fight to determine P4P 1 IMO going into 2017
                  -HW joshua, wilder, winner of sterv/pov or both depending on show and wlad still a player.

                  A majority of those mentioned werent as big last year. Fights or boxers. Exposure this year helped some

                  2017 we will see a resurgence......

                  Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by bigtyivier2k2
                    I used to hate UFC but in the last year i started getting into it because a few of my friends love it. Obviously i dont like it anywhere close to boxing but after hearing that GGG is off Dec 10th card, Klit vs Joshua isnt happening, Danny Garcia gets another cherry pick.. I am getting quite fed up with boxing. I buy most of the big ppv's but enough is enough already. As fans of boxing we don't deserve this **** anymore. meanwhile in the UFC the top guys are constantly fighting top guys and you never quite know who will win.

                    Thank god for Kovalev and Ward, and Lomochenko Walters otherwise this year will go down as crap. We should be getting fights like Canelo GGG, GGG jacobs, Pacquiao Crawford, Pacquiao vs Vargas etc instead we get Canelo vs Khan, smith GGG vs Brook and other crap mismatches. Like step the **** up already because boxing is becoming an embarrassing circus that I am getting frustrated being a part of already. Seems liek 9 out of 10 top fighters are constantly cherry picking and ducking. The next big UFC even is in my hometown NY and the card is stacked from top to bottom with ridiculous fights. Whens the last time boxing had a stacked card? Boxing hardly gives us a top dog vs top dog main event let alone a stacked card with top fighters.

                    Sorry I just had to vent as I read about GGG not fighting on Dec 10 and Jacobs trainer saying Jacobs needs 12 weeks to train for GGG. GROW SOME ****ING BALLS already this is the fight game not table tennis.
                    The UFC will never take fans away from boxing for the simple fact that they're structure is set the way it is; call it what you want, but the UFC has become the combat sport choice of white America because they feature white fighters/fighters White America can rally behind.

                    There's very little in the UFC, tbh, to draw boxing's Mexican/Mexican American fanbase away, and there's very little to draw away African American viewers either.

                    You add in the return of the "local star to national attraction" to boxing, and the amount of boxing talent coming along the way and the boxing audience is just fine.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Jsmooth9876
                      It's called a comparison. 2 combat sports, one doing multiple million plus PPV per year, matching top contender against champion on a almost consistent basis and one where the so called face of the sport draws 250,000-300,000 PPV and the other gets anywhere from 97-150k and instead of seeing the top guys fight we get these ducks running away from big fights and then complaining why theyre not more well known.


                      For every Ward-Kovalev we get the UFC puts on 5 shows just like it or better.
                      I'll never give up on boxing but I'm a 40 year old guy and have been following before the UFC existed in the mainstream, guys I work with that are 20 couldn't care less about boxing and it's all about the UFC. So good luck bringing new fans in when we get older and fade away putting on garbage fights all the time that nobody gives a fk about while your competition is destroying you with quality fights.
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