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  • Ray*
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    #41
    Just like I thought, the fight isn't happening.

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    • MDPopescu
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      #42
      Originally posted by BoxingFan85
      Hold onto your horses Plunger.. Hearn knew it all along that there has to be another title on the line for this fight, like most UK fans you got played on.. If Wlad fights Joshua for IBF he will lose his rankings with WBA, then he cannot work his way up at 40.. Of all the things you can accuse Wlad of, you can never accuse him of ducking anyone...
      Hearn promotes Ortiz too now right, Hearn should make a proposition with WBA if AJ-Wlad doesn't get sanctioned then Hearn should at least try Ortiz-Wlad

      Let's hope WBA sanctions Wlad-AJ for the belt, then let's talk about how you can convert from GBP to USD for losing a bet with me..
      Too late as regarding Ortiz -- Hearn already made him a separate card!!!


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      • Burt Saxby
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        #43
        Originally posted by Scott. Weiland
        Of what I have read I think the issue is Wlad can ill afford to forfeit a lofty WBA ranking to chase the IBF which is always going to be there whilst Joshua has it, he can grab the WBA upon being mandated due to the high ranking then come back to the IBF once he has it the WBA in his possession, make no mistakes it's only big fights or at least title fights from here on out.

        Wlad looks certain to fight well into his 42nd year should he continue winning against the likes of Browne and Joshua, I just hope Joshua can retain the belt long enough the wish is to see Wlad crush the manufactured title holder Joshua and it will happen if Wlad has half of what he had left in 2011-2012.
        Grabbing an empty trinket means nothing to nobody , unless he won if off Louis Ortiz.
        Against Browne tho? Its who you beat that makes you a champion. Browne is so far removed from world level its not even funny.
        This sport is an complete embarrassment when a guy can claim championship status against a D level nobody.
        Former champs would have went straight for AJ no questions asked.

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        • Edward90
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          #44
          Originally posted by BoxingFan85
          Like I said in #17, if he fights AJ now then its bye bye WBA.. With WBO belt almost gone out of his reach, he cannot afford to lose more belts if he ever wishes to regain them.. Unification fights are voluntary & a lot of pain to make than mandatory or top contenders within your own division..
          I get where you're coming from, but that seems like an excuse. By the time Wlad fights AJ, he will be another year older. I want higher-quality fights. I don't care about belts. I don't care about their money. I want the best to fight the best. Wlad has control over this situation (assuming that the WBA belt is the hold up) and he will choose to fight someone else if he can't fight for the specific belt he wants. That's crap. If he fought Joshua now, he would be able to make a unification bout assuming he wins, right? He would be in a similar situation assuming the fight could be made with whoever the WBA titleholder was at the time.

          This points to one of the biggest problems with boxing, a bunch of excuses as to why the best don't fight the best. Oh, this title isn't up for grabs. Oh, I don't get paid enough. Oh, I need a catchweight. Oh, he doesn't have the resume to get the shot. A bunch of BS across the board. Those things come with wins over quality opponents.

          Okay, my rant is over. LOL.

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          • Jewish-Reptile
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            #45
            Originally posted by Burt Saxby
            Grabbing an empty trinket means nothing to nobody , unless he won if off Louis Ortiz.
            Against Browne tho? Its who you beat that makes you a champion. Browne is so far removed from world level its not even funny.
            This sport is an complete embarrassment when a guy can claim championship status against a D level nobody.
            Former champs would have went straight for AJ no questions asked.
            I would much prefer this too but Boente has made it clear Wlad wants to unify the belts. It is Wlad's will to regain the belts and time is of the essence. Hearn also noted he would have preferred more time to market and the millenium stadium.

            I am disappointed yet out of this may come an even bigger fight and it is summer in Wales I can go, if it is December Manchester I can not.

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            • The plunger man
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              #46
              Originally posted by Scott. Weiland
              I would much prefer this too but Boente has made it clear Wlad wants to unify the belts. It is Wlad's will to regain the belts and time is of the essence. Hearn also noted he would have preferred more time to market and the millenium stadium.

              I am disappointed yet out of this may come an even bigger fight and it is summer in Wales I can go, if it is December Manchester I can not.
              Klitchcko will never fight Joshua numbskull....no heavyweights that's ever lived has ever retained any where near there prime going beyond 40 so talking like klitchcko has some miracle unification run in him shows what a mongchat you are.
              He's going for a Browne because he knows it's highly likely that Joshua would steamroller him and probably end his career.
              Klitchcko facing oquendo or Browne guarantees him wining a belt and then manipulating his opponents for his reign
              Basically your hero is after a cherry pick and Lucas Browne is one hell of a cherry
              Last edited by The plunger man; 10-18-2016, 05:45 PM.

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              • BigZ44
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                #47
                I'm actually ok with this IF Joshua does fight Pulev and Klitschko fights Browne. Those are both fights that intrigue me, as long as Klitschko doesn't face Oquendo, that would be awful. A Joshua/Klitschko unification at a big stadium in the summer does make a lot of sense for both guys. I understand why we as fans would be unhappy about this but I get what is going on. I think for Klitschko though it's just gonna be more miles on the treads and Joshua will be even more experienced by the time they meet. I think every day that goes by the chances of Joshua winning the fight increase.

                With that being said, Pulev would still be by far his toughest test and is a fight I really like. Hopefully they can get that done if this fight falls through as it appears it will now. Also, the WBA really needs to get their **** together and figure out what they are gonna do with all these guys that think they have a claim at the belt.

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                  #48
                  Thats good let Klit get that WBA strap and Joshua gets in there with a decent opponent in Pulev. Build up a megafight which would be a unification. This lets Klit shake off the inactivity and gives Joshua an extra fight to prepare for the step up in class. Good for both sides so that there is no excuses when the fight happens.

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                  • BoxingFan85
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Burt Saxby
                    The IBF belt was the belt that kick started his reign. Thats the belt he should be going after if 'sentimental value ' stance is to be believed.

                    Its a lame excuse. He wants a no risk route to a vacant title. He's to scared to face a green 17 fight novice.

                    Seriously!? That's the most lamest reason one can give to not fight for a title.. The guy held all the titles for 10yrs, do you think he would be scared to face a up and coming prospect?? If what I explained doesn't make you understand on how to utilize the situation I don't know what else will..

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                    • BoxingFan85
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Edward90
                      I get where you're coming from, but that seems like an excuse. By the time Wlad fights AJ, he will be another year older. I want higher-quality fights. I don't care about belts. I don't care about their money. I want the best to fight the best. Wlad has control over this situation (assuming that the WBA belt is the hold up) and he will choose to fight someone else if he can't fight for the specific belt he wants. That's crap. If he fought Joshua now, he would be able to make a unification bout assuming he wins, right? He would be in a similar situation assuming the fight could be made with whoever the WBA titleholder was at the time.

                      This points to one of the biggest problems with boxing, a bunch of excuses as to why the best don't fight the best. Oh, this title isn't up for grabs. Oh, I don't get paid enough. Oh, I need a catchweight. Oh, he doesn't have the resume to get the shot. A bunch of BS across the board. Those things come with wins over quality opponents.

                      Okay, my rant is over. LOL.
                      I would love to see Wlad fight Joshua and regain his titles as the next guy.. the dude is 40 now, Do you think he would have the time to unify all the titles one after the other.. Talk about best fighting the best and Wlad has fought the best of his time and everyone that was willing and he made concessions to unify titles all along his reign.. So he had an off night or 1 bad fight, lost his titles now he has a chance to get 2 titles by next year, do you think he will let go a chance like this!? I'd be foolish to think otherwise.. If every unification was so easy to make and all mandatories were kept waiting we would have undisputed champs in raj divisions..

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