If Golovkin is a hype job

[daggum]

I have no clue, I'm not Haymon and I'm not up his ass 24/7.

i'm haymon and yes i will be bidding. why do you think there haven't been any shows lately? IM GOING BIG HERE FOLKS! 100 million dollars

[Citizen Koba]

It is not normal for a champion to become mandatory for another alphabet organizations belt. If that was the case why were Mayweather and Pacquiao never each other's mandatories? Why was Garcia or Thurman not able to Dan or Bizier's? I'll tell you why, because it's unprecedented. We be crooks make up their laws as it suits ($) them. Please stop with the double talk before you leave yourself tongue tied. At the time that the Ward fight was proposed it was bigger fight financially than any proposed middle weight fight for Golovkin. Anybody from 54-68,means anybody, end of story.

Because these moves started fairly recently. This is from Jan 2015 although the earliest mentions of this proposal were from earlier. It's fair to argue they just made it up for Golovkins sake, but the more widely accepted reason is that they felt under threat from AIBA APB project and other forays onto 'pro' territory.

http://www.boxingscene.com/wbc-wba-i...hampion--86901



And no, Ward wasn't the 'biggest fight' available to Golovkin, at least certainly that wasn't the way things appeared at the time. At the time Ward made his offer (for one interim fight each) Golovkin was mandated to fight the winner of Cotto / Canelo if he made it past Lemieux. The Ward offer would have put a prospective Ward fight squarely in the timeframe of a possible Cotto / Canelo MW unification. And yes. That would have been a bigger fight than GGG - Ward. OK, so it didn't work out, sucks for GGG but they didn't know at the time how events would play out.

[Mr.MojoRisin']

What kind of response is this? Do you support Jacobs passing on 2 Quillins? You think he's worth more than that?

When did Jacobs pass up on $3 million? He said he'll fight for 3-5 mill.

[HeroBando]

When did Jacobs pass up on $3 million? He said he'll fight for 3-5 mill.

I dunno what exactly 2 Quillins means but that's a direct quote, not even 2 months old

http://www.boxingscene.com/jacobs-ill-fight-golovkin-canelo-right-money--108136

[j0zef]

so how is he ever going to get a fight worth a damn when he never bends? and why are you so emotional?? and when do i make 5 GGG threads a day? Are you ok with him constantly fighing sub par comp?? as a fan dont you want to see him in with better comp?? Or are you fine just claiming he will beat everyone?

I gave you examples of when he bends and you say 'he never bends". What?

Why should he bend against Jacobs? Did Floyd bend against every nobody who wanted to fight him? Did Floyd give Berto 40/60%?

Emotional? I'm not sure why you're confusing calling you on your bull**** being "emotional". It's actually the polar opposite.

You've made 2 threads about Golovkin so far, and it's barely past noon. You still have time to make 3 more today.
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=726043
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=726033

And spare me your double standards. We all want to see every fighter fight better opponents, from Danny Garcia, to Manny, to Golovkin. But it does not mean let these lowlifes try to take advantage of you in every shape and form. Jumping up 15 lbs to fight Ward/Kov, draining for Canelo on demand, or giving Danny Jacobs or Lara a crapton of money as a reward for nothing is not gonna be on Golovkin's to do list.

[The Big Dunn]

Then why doesn't Jacobs take the 25-75 split (or whatever was offered to him), beat him easily, become lineal/unified world champion (no one believes Canelo is the real MW champion) and then calls the shots for fights against:

BJS, Canelo, Golovkin rematch, Eubank Jr, Lee, etc, for much more money.

Oh wait, Jacobs said Golovkin was the best of his generation. I'm confused.

Because he iss in position to get a higher % if he signs before they go to a purse bid. If it gets to a purse bid, Jacobs is locked into 25%, but his promoter would control venue and TV rights. If they go to SHO, HBO may not let GGG fight on SHO, which could make GGG and his team vacate the belt.

Then Jacobs fights for the belt. If he wins, he can now make a deal to fight GGG for more money.

[Larry the boss]

do ya'll want to see a good fight or are ya'll worried about the fighters money?

[kafkod]

nice counter....all i have to say is why does everyone have to bend for GGG?? but he has yet to bend for anyone else

Who had to bend for GGG?

Canelo, for being required to defend his MW title against a mandatory challenger at the sanctioned MW limit?

Jacobs, because the WBA have told him that if his mandated fight with Golovkin goes to a purse bid, he will get same percentage split as any other WBA mandatory challenger?

Or maybe Eubank Jnr, because his dad wouldn't be given excutive control of the whole promotion if he fought Golovkin?

[boliodogs]

It's only haters who say he is a hype job. If he KOs Jacobs next and then KOs Saunders and then KOs Eubank within the next 6 or 8 months he would remain a hype job in their eyes. Only a 15 pound jump in weight and a KO win over the Ward-Kovalev winner would remove the hype job label they put on him.Few boxers or boxing experts ever calls him a hype job.

[frantic fighter]

Because these moves started fairly recently. This is from Jan 2015 although the earliest mentions of this proposal were from earlier. It's fair to argue they just made it up for Golovkins sake, but the more widely accepted reason is that they felt under threat from AIBA APB project and other forays onto 'pro' territory.

http://www.boxingscene.com/wbc-wba-i...hampion--86901



And no, Ward wasn't the 'biggest fight' available to Golovkin, at least certainly that wasn't the way things appeared at the time. At the time Ward made his offer (for one interim fight each) Golovkin was mandated to fight the winner of Cotto / Canelo if he made it past Lemieux. The Ward offer would have put a prospective Ward fight squarely in the timeframe of a possible Cotto / Canelo MW unification. And yes. That would have been a bigger fight than GGG - Ward. OK, so it didn't work out, sucks for GGG but they didn't know at the time how events would play out.

The link that you posted spends all of two sentences, vaguely exploring the possibility of champions challenging other champions with in the same divisions. To go from there to a champion becoming another champion's mandatory is a gargantuan leap. The Cotto/Canelo vs Golovkin unification was insubstantial, the Ward fight was a legitimate concrete offer, should he have taken that fight and won. He would have returned with even greater leverage,but as the saying goes,oh well.