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  • Edward90
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    #91
    Originally posted by bojangles1987
    Golovkin hasn't just been fighting the Dominic Wades of the world. I don't get why everyone acts like that's all he does. He's fought and beaten like 5 or 6 top 10 MWs in the past 4 years. That's all Jacobs is, another top 10 MW. He wouldn't even be Golovkin's biggest fight this year.

    Let's get real about who exactly Daniel Jacobs is. He's just another middleweight name, not any kind of high profile fight. He is likely being offered the highest purse of his career and turning it down because he isn't confident about winning. This idea that Golovkin needs to make huge concessions to fight Daniel ****ing Jacobs is ridiculous. He's nobody.
    It seems as though you are interested in their money. I'm interested in quality of fights. Jacobs would offer a better fight than anyone that is on GGG's resume. GGG needs notable people on his resume. Period. I'm not going to tune in to watch him fight Heiland (or whoever). I want to see him fight the best. Jacobs is a good MW that would make for a notable win.

    Let's get real about the MW division as a whole. It's crap. So beating 5 or 6 or top MW in a mediocre division doesn't matter to me. Beating a bunch of people that you are largely expected to beat isn't mind-boggling to me. Jacobs would be the best challenge GGG has faced in my opinion. No, he doesn't have the draw that Brook has, but that doesn't mean he shouldn't get more than 25% based on the quality of fighter he is. Put better, what would the split be if it wasn't a mandatory. In my eyes, it would be 2 to 1.

    Taking 66% of the split isn't a huge concession. That's really favorable. You make it seem like we don't all acknowledge that GGG is the draw. If Jacobs walks away from this fight, maybe GGG can fight Andy Lee for only a 25% split. I'm sure people will tune in for the obvious GGG win. Or he can wait on Canelo (a fight that I don't care about either because I think GGG wins easily) while fighting people no one gives a damn about and get the payday that he wants. This won't retain people who want to see GGG face better competition. I want to see GGG in challenging contests, something that hasn't happened yet. To me, Jacobs is the best challenge he has in front of him. Make it happen!! We'll have to agree to disagree on this one. Fight Jacobs, fight Canelo, then move up to face people who are legitimate challenges and can lead to something more than a one-sided 5th round stoppage.

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    • bojangles1987
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      #92
      Originally posted by koolbreez12
      What?! As far as cleaning out a division and claiming to be the best MW in the world, Danny is who GGG needs to fight. Danny is the second best MW at the moment and is no way in the same league as Wade, Lemieux, etc. His KO of Quillen is better than anything on GGG resume if you ask me. 40% may be too much but 35% is definitely fair and not a "huge concession" by any means.
      There is absolutely no way the Quillin win is better than anything on Golovkin's resume. Quillin has never done anything to suggest that. His only quality win was N'Dam, who he needed all of those 6 KDs to beat on the cards. Other than that Quillin never beat anyone and looked awful against average and awful fighters. He was all hype and no substance.

      For all we know Golovkin has offered 35%. This isn't K2 offering Jacobs 25%, that's the purse bid split. And quite frankly Jacobs should take it. The onus is not on Golovkin to bend over backwards to make this fight. He can move on if Jacobs walks away and he'll be just fine. Jacobs walking away relegates him to being the same kind of pathetic joke that Quillin was.

      This is not Golovkin's chance at stardom. He's already a star. This is Jacobs's chance, and if he throws it away no one should take him seriously.

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      • bojangles1987
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        #93
        Originally posted by Edward90
        It seems as though you are interested in their money. I'm interested in quality of fights. Jacobs would offer a better fight than anyone that is on GGG's resume. GGG needs notable people on his resume. Period. I'm not going to tune in to watch him fight Heiland (or whoever). I want to see him fight the best. Jacobs is a good MW that would make for a notable win.

        Let's get real about the MW division as a whole. It's crap. So beating 5 or 6 or top MW in a mediocre division doesn't matter to me. Beating a bunch of people that you are largely expected to beat isn't mind-boggling to me. Jacobs would be the best challenge GGG has faced in my opinion. No, he doesn't have the draw that Brook has, but that doesn't mean he shouldn't get more than 25% based on the quality of fighter he is. Put better, what would the split be if it wasn't a mandatory. In my eyes, it would be 2 to 1.

        Taking 66% of the split isn't a huge concession. That's really favorable. You make it seem like we don't all acknowledge that GGG is the draw. If Jacobs walks away from this fight, maybe GGG can fight Andy Lee for only a 25% split. I'm sure people will tune in for the obvious GGG win. Or he can wait on Canelo (a fight that I don't care about either because I think GGG wins easily) while fighting people no one gives a damn about and get the payday that he wants. This won't retain people who want to see GGG face better competition. I want to see GGG in challenging contests, something that hasn't happened yet. To me, Jacobs is the best challenge he has in front of him. Make it happen!! We'll have to agree to disagree on this one. Fight Jacobs, fight Canelo, then move up to face people who are legitimate challenges and can lead to something more than a one-sided 5th round stoppage.
        You're acting like Golovkin needs Jacobs and it's his fault the fight isn't signed. Golovkin doesn't need Jacobs. So are most people who are blaming Golovkin or saying he needs to be the one giving Jacobs everything to make the fight.

        He can move on to a variety of other options if Jacobs walks away. Jacobs, on the other hand, has to make this fight if he wants to retain any credibility. He needs this fight way more than Golovkin, and will deserve the blame for asking for absurd purse splits if the fight doesn't happen.

        I'm so sick of everyone blaming Golovkin for the fighters that duck him. That's exactly what's happening here, people preparing reasons to blame Golovkin if Jacobs ducks him. It's exactly what you're doing. The ****ing guy is reportedly asking for 40% and a tuneup. If that's true, he doesn't want the fight.

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        • bojangles1987
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          #94
          Originally posted by AddiX
          Jacobs vs Quillng was suppose to be Jacobs "big fight"

          It didn't even break 300k views, and thzts with Showtime doing a buildup to that fight!

          So explain to me he deserved any sort if big money again? Just because Haymon overpaid him doesn't mean anyone else should.

          Time for these fighters to face reality....
          Looks like fans need to face reality, too, because they're arguing like Jacobs is in the driver's seat here. Golovkin doesn't need Danny ****ing Jacobs. Jacobs ducking this fight hurts no one but Jacobs.

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            #95
            Originally posted by Ray*
            The thing is if Team GGG stick to that 25% which they are entitle to, they cannot come back and berate Tean Canelo even if they get offered 10%, this is playing nicely into GBP hands. The thing is Team GGG are amatuerish, you got to make some concessions to get the bigger payday.

            they are cunning as hell

            they are taking the fights they want, and passing on the rest

            just like everyone else

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              #96
              Originally posted by filup79
              People are confusing all this percentage split. People say that Jacobs only deserves 25%, 25% of what? The percentage is based on the purse bid, has nothing to do with revenue split. In order for Jacobs to receive a million purse for the fight someone would have to bid $4 million. 3 mil to GGG and 1 mil to Jacobs. K2 must have low balled Jacobs during negotiations and asked for an early purse bid knowing that GGG would get 75% of the bid. Why would Jacobs fight GGG for less than he got fighting Quillen? K2 has never paid any fighter over $500,000 to fight GGG, that's why K2 can't afford to give GGG any big fights. If it ends up being 25%, Jacobs should move on and try and land Saunders or Canelo.

              great post !

              they clearly have very little interest in that fight

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                #97
                Its an absolute and utter joke GGG thinks he deserves 75% of the pie with the number 2 guy who is also a NAME fighter. This dilusional hype job will be taking a loss in 2017. If he mans up and fights Canelo, Alvarez will retire this clown.

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                  #98
                  Originally posted by bojangles1987
                  There is absolutely no way the Quillin win is better than anything on Golovkin's resume. Quillin has never done anything to suggest that. His only quality win was N'Dam, who he needed all of those 6 KDs to beat on the cards. Other than that Quillin never beat anyone and looked awful against average and awful fighters. He was all hype and no substance.

                  For all we know Golovkin has offered 35%. This isn't K2 offering Jacobs 25%, that's the purse bid split. And quite frankly Jacobs should take it. The onus is not on Golovkin to bend over backwards to make this fight. He can move on if Jacobs walks away and he'll be just fine. Jacobs walking away relegates him to being the same kind of pathetic joke that Quillin was.

                  This is not Golovkin's chance at stardom. He's already a star. This is Jacobs's chance, and if he throws it away no one should take him seriously.
                  And Lemuix need all 4 of his or he might of LOST!!! Lemieux won by scores of 115-109 from two of the judges and 114-110 from the third judge.

                  Quillin scored six knockdowns, which were the true difference in the fight, winning on scores of 115-107 across the board.

                  6 > 4 KD's
                  115-107 > 115-109

                  = Quillin > Lemuix

                  Let's not forget Lemuix was KTFO by Ricky Rubio!!!
                  AND LOST to Super WW Joachim Alcine

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                    #99
                    Originally posted by bojangles1987
                    Looks like fans need to face reality, too, because they're arguing like Jacobs is in the driver's seat here. Golovkin doesn't need Danny ****ing Jacobs. Jacobs ducking this fight hurts no one but Jacobs.
                    Most already have. We all know it's going to be a BUM that GGG fights next...As usual.

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                      #100
                      Originally posted by aboutfkntime
                      great post !

                      they clearly have very little interest in that fight
                      So which BUM you think is going to be Plan "B" for GGG???

                      Tureno? 12-0 Blanco?? Heliand??? Or 5'2" Curbsidze???

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