Name a 160 fighter in history that could beat GGG?

[robertzimmerman]

LMAO @ this emotional female


no double hooks huh?

what is this?





When GGG buckles Kell Brook in the first round. What did he throw? Body to head. same hand. i wonder what that's called.


In fighting huh..... like what GGG did to Ouma. Put his head on Ouma's chest and threw short hooks and beat him out of boxing for 2 years?



JUST LMAO @ this blind tard.

Learn to read you illiterate fool.


I said they weren't as COMMON today.


In-fighting isn't as common either.


You think that today's fighters are superior due to records that have been broken in swimming and sprinting.

You think today's athletes are fitter and stronger.


Yet some skills aren't as common, and some of today's guys wouldn't be able to fight at a fast pace for 15 rounds.


Only an moron of the highest order would claim that boxing has progressed like swimming and track and field.


Congratulate yourself.

You get first prize for the dumpling of the year - 2016.

[robertzimmerman]

Ray Robinson in his prime lost to Jake Lamotta. Knocked through the ropes. Lamotta Who was a short mentally unwell italian with short reach, pillow fists and a melon head. GGG would smother Ray Robinson similar but knock him out for the count. Bigger, faster, harder puncher and much better skills.



Marvin Hagler in his prime was beaten by Willie Monroe. Hagler's best wins are over WW's. he lost to some and went life and death with some. extremely overrated. GGG is bigger, harder puncher and more skilled. Hagler only has inside fighting, GGG would just stay at long range with his jab and outbox Hagler if he so chose.


Monzon was beaten in his prime by argentinian goat herders. end of discussion.


James Tony. PED roid cheat. even at that he lost to absolute bums in his prime. inconsistent.

RJJ. PED roid cheat + disgraceful glass jaw. facts. Also could get smothered. Glen Johnson showed how. GGG is a bad stylistic match up.

Chris Eubank got beat by Steve Collins twice. that's right. who the hell is Steve Collins?


Michael Nunn is a glass jawed joke. if only GGG can box as well as this bum. 25-17 http://boxrec.com/boxer/543

G-man McClellan got literally beaten into a wheelchair. he is not physically wired right for a fight with GGG. i fear much worse damage.

Another joke post.

You're on a roll.


Mr. Objective, huh?


Yeah, Ray Robinson lost once to Jake in 6 fights. But things like that happen when you fight so frequent.

GG fights 3-4 times per year.

Ray rematched Jake 3 WEEKS after one of their fights.

GG would also have dropped decisions to guys after fighting over 100 fights.


You are so ****ing ignorant.

When you look at a fantasy fight, you don't just boxrec and see who they lost to. You look at the style and the attributes they had and imagine how they'd have clashed. You also take a version of someone when they were at the best, whilst trying to be objective.

Yes, Toney lost to Tiberi. He's admitted to it.

GG is on another planet to Tiberi.

Does that mean that GG would have beaten Toney?

No. Because Toney also beat McCallum, Nunn, Johnson, Barkley and Littles etc, and he had great attributes and a great style.


Again, only an absolute moron would use Glen Johnson's win over Roy as some sort of evidence that GG would have beaten Roy when he was at MW. Pathetic.


Yeah, Eubank lost to Collins when he was faded at the end of his career at SUPER-MIDDLEWEIGHT. But what about the versions of him at MIDDLEWEIGHT, before the Watson tragedy, who beat the likes of Watson and Benn in their primes?? Stop predicting the outcomes by looking at BoxRec, genius.


Michael Nunn was a great boxer in the early 90's. Beautiful slick skills, great reflexes and footwork, and a southpaw who was 6'1, with a 76/77" reach. Why don't you think about that for a moment. You know nothing about the man. You know nothing about his drug issues and how he faded fast after getting into trouble. Statistics don't allow for circumstances.


Yeah, Gerald McCllelan was involved in his tragic fight with Benn at SUPER-MIDDLEWEIGHT. But look at the attributes and the style he had, and look at what he did at MIDDLEWEIGHT, knocking the likes of Julian Jackson out in a round. Go and objectively analyse him, and give us an honest opinion of how you'd have seen a fight playing out.


Do you know what your comments say to all of us?

Do you know what they reveal?

Your posts scream out to everyone who reads them:

I'VE NEVER SEEN ANY OF THOSE GUYS FIGHT, BUT I'll ELIMINATE THEM WITH THE AID OF BOXREC.


You are completely incapable of giving an honest opinion on fantasy fights against the likes of Nunn and Eubank. Because you've never seen them fight.


You have zero KNOWLEDGE.


You are an absolute EMBARRASSMENT!


Instead of making a fool of yourself, put your time to better use.

Go and watch some footage of the fighters that have been mentioned.

[robertzimmerman]

you are getting killed by logic. you are emotionally breaking down.

show me one instance GGG lost to absolute bums in his prime like Hagler and Monzon.

You don't know the meaning of the word 'LOGIC'

You think GG would have beaten Toney, because he lost to guys like Tiberi, whilst ignoring everything else he did and the style and the attributes that he possessed.

You are the boxrec king who debates on statistics instead of watching the fights.

You're ****ing clueless.

[robertzimmerman]

you can't answer my question because GGG never lost nor even had a close decision.



Monzon lost to a 10-29 fighter. LMAO


Hagler lost to Willie Monroe caliber of fighter. the level of fighter GGG plays with.

Hagler also lost to WW's.


if only GGG could do that too maybe one day he'll also be an ATG.

So what you're saying is, GG is the greatest MW of all time, because all of the greats lost at some point, whereas he hasn't.

You're also saying that he could never have been beaten by any of those former greats, because you think GG is better than the guys they lost to?

So GG is the greatest MW ever who can't be beaten.


Wow!


TRAGIC!

[robertzimmerman]

Hagler also went to a decision with a 135er Duran. close decision too.

Hagler also lost to a WW.

GGG doesn't do any of those things. if only he could go to a close decision with a natural 135er and lose to a WW like Hagler.

lose to WIllie Monroe too. that would be the cherry on top of an ATG MW run.

Pathetic.


Was Roberto 135 on the night?

Was he one of the greatest fighters of all time?

Did he have success at MW after losing to Marvin?


Who's the WW you're referring to? Ray Leonard?


For **** sake man, GIVE US AN ACTUAL BREAKDOWN of what you think would have happened between the two fighters, instead of pathetically deciding the outcome based on Marvin's defeats.


God help us if GG moves up to SMW.

You'd be telling us all how he could have beaten anyone whoever fought there by referencing boxrec.


I cringe when I read your posts.

[HeadShots]

Pathetic.


Was Roberto 135 on the night?

Was he one of the greatest fighters of all time?

Did he have success at MW after losing to Marvin?


Who's the WW you're referring to? Ray Leonard?


For **** sake man, GIVE US AN ACTUAL BREAKDOWN of what you think would have happened, between the two fighters, instead of pathetically deciding the outcome based on his defeats.


I cringe when I read your posts.

do you realize you're giving nothing but emotional tantrums?

just LOL


135er Duran only became great off the weak links at higher weights he picked off.

same as Lamotta beating Ray Robinson. Is Lamotta a great middleweight? stylistically no. crude, limited, pillow fisted.


this is the same case here. Duran beat nothing but bums above WW. The fact he had a close fight with Hagler is why Hagler is limited not why Duran is great. Same with Ray Leonard beating Hagler.

Hagler is only hyped up as a monster but in reality he was a weak MW champ that let some WW's make a name off of him.

you are a female though, so you get caught up in hype.

If Kell Brook had beaten GGG, a delusion of greatness would be created too. but no GGG shows you how it's done against WW's.


you want a breakdown of how GGG vs Duran would go at MW? Duran would get bombed out. Ray Leonard would get walked into corners and bombed out too. Hagler's footwork is limited. he's a plodding follower. GGG's offensive footwork is far superior .. let's not forget the power. his power is superior to Hagler's too.

[HeadShots]

You don't know the meaning of the word 'LOGIC'

You think GG would have beaten Toney, because he lost to guys like Tiberi,
You're ****ing clueless.

actually yes. so basically the fact that Toney has lost to Tiberi is evidence that Toney is beatable in his prime.


There's simply no blueprint to beat GGG in his prime. we are talking about likelihood here and odds.


If Tiberi can beat Toney then GGG could as well. that is perfectly sound logic. you cannot say the same for GGG as he never lost in his prime.


that is pure logic.


you are going by fantasy. like oh if GGG punches Toney can swerve like dis and like dat. but what you don't realize is GGG throws probing shots to set up his power shots. it's not easy to swerve a feint to eat the set up shot. i can talk about that **** too.... but it's much more logical to talk about Toney losing to absolute bums.



also the fact he has admitted to using PED's which makes him an inferior fighter. a cheater that lost to TIberi. if only GGG can dream of that day.

[HughJass]

James Toney

[HeadShots]

So what you're saying is, GG is the greatest MW of all time, because all of the greats lost at some point, whereas he hasn't.

You're also saying that he could never have been beaten by any of those former greats, because you think GG is better than the guys they lost to?

So GG is the greatest MW ever who can't be beaten.


Wow!


TRAGIC!

LMAO another emotional breakdown. your estrogen level must be through the roof.


Is this thread about greatness or H2H match-ups? do you know how to not let emotions get the best of you?


i didn't say he was greatest.

greatness is an emotional concept. there's some historically significance to their fights.





however, in a h2h matchups which is what this thread is about. like maybe Marciano is greater than Vitali. but Vitali would hammer his head in H2H.


do you get it you mangina? just LOL

[robertzimmerman]

Can you imagine what this turd would be saying if you tried to make excuses for golovkin being koed by a guy with 7 losses. Oh ggg was sick and hand injured hand going into the fight. He wasn't mentally ready. I can't believe he actually posted those excuses for roy.

Who the **** are you??


Give us your great insight, genius.


Roy went through 5 weight classes, which included going up to HW and back.

He'd fought over 50 times and was past prime when he fought Glen.


How do we know how GG would fare, if he went up to LHW and then dropped back to MW in quick succession?


Now did Roy beat better fighters than Glen in his prime? Yes or no?


Do you think Glen would have beaten Roy while Roy was prime? Yes or no?


Roy at LHW in 2004, at 35, was NOT the same fighter who fought at MW in his early-mid 20's.

Anybody who thinks GG would have beaten Roy at MW, based on what Glen did at LHW years later, is an absolute ****ING ******. Especially as GG didn't possess the same advantages as Glen.


Basically, GG beats anyone in the history of the sport, and he could never be beaten by any greats of the past, because they lost and he hasn't? Yes?

Fantastic logic.


Rocky Marcianio must be the greatest HW of all time then.

Surely he's better than Lennox and Ali.

He has to be.

Boxrec says so.

I mean, they lost to Spinks and Rahman, whereas Rocky was undefeated.


You are the TURD.


This site needs ****ing cleansing ASAP.


Guys like you should be at the very top of the list.