Name a 160 fighter in history that could beat GGG?

[BEEHOP]

I actually would give Bernard a decent shot at beating him at 170 right now. GGG is no Kovalev as much as his fans would like to think he is.

[BrometheusBob.]

Whew that ones a doozy.

[KidDinamita]

Marvin Hagler is 5'9 1/2 against Gennady Golovkin's 5'11 GGG would be the bigger man between the two and he had already said that he was "unsure" if he could beat Golovkin if they ever fought. Marvin said that Golovkin reminded him of himself back when he was ducked to the point that the orgs did not allow him to fight for a world title.

But I would Pick Golovkin to beat Hagler in an SD-MD match up. Marvin Hagler isn't Pernell Whitaker and Gennady Golovkin isn't Ruslan Provodnikov, he would respect Hagler's power and would not walk through him. Golovkin would probably try to pick his shots, and would punish him with body shots. The thing about Hagler is he holds up his hands too high that would leave his body open, and GGG would take advantage of it. Hagler would try to be the counter puncher, but the thing about Golovkin is he LOVES his opponents to be the counter puncher because of how he faints his shots and how he picks it.

Hearns was / is 6'1 still Hagler beat him.

[HeadShots]

Alrite perhaps not Hearns, I think Hearns would outbox him for multiple rounds and look like he's about to take a decision and then get KO'd late.

But Hopkins is a monster at 160, I don't think anyone except prime Roy or Hagler could handle him. I honestly believe he'd outbox GGG.

Hopkins is a monster at 160. However he has problems with fighters who throw high volume. especially with both hands. Hopkins can take away single hands like ODLH and Trinidad... but he has problems with fighters who fights with both hands like Calzaghe, Jones and he can get overwhelmed by volume like Taylor did him.



The thing about GGG is that he doesn't wait to throw punches. he unloads with both hands. he doesn't wait.

Calzaghe beat Hopkins with activity. throwing 65 punches a round. that is exactly the average # of punches GGG throws/round. Hopkins throws around 40 punches around.



Hopkins style does not bode well against high volume fighters. He pretty much lost to all the skilled high volume guys he fought.

[Elroy The Great]

3g might beat a julian jackson or terry norris or micheal nunn. def barkley. most likely shot duran.

notable mw who would eat up 3g - gman, rjj, mccallum, toney, hop, hagler, monzon, srr, maybe some guys from the ''put up yer dukes'' era....

[NaijaD]

For all the talk of film, there's skills that aren't as common anymore:

In-fighting and double hooks etc.


For all the talk of nutrition and sports science:

Many fighters today would struggle to fight 15 rounds.


Today's fighters don't learn their craft in the same manner. The legendary trainers are no longer with us.


Today's guys don't fight as often against every style imaginable on the way up.


Today's guys don't progress in the same way due to having 4 main Organisations and multiple belts that are on offer.


You're a boxrec warrior who debates using stats.

Yes, GG is great. Yes, he's undefeated. But that doesn't mean a fighter from the past couldn't have beaten him.

Great fighters lost a fair few fights in the past.

It doesnt mean anything.

If you had a time machine and dropped Floyd into Robbo's era, he would never have retired undefeated.


Lay off boxrec and go and watch some more footage.

The amount of logic and sense in this post is TOO DAM HIGH!!

[sunny31]

Hopkins is a monster at 160. However he has problems with fighters who throw high volume. especially with both hands. Hopkins can take away single hands like ODLH and Trinidad... but he has problems with fighters who fights with both hands like Calzaghe, Jones and he can get overwhelmed by volume like Taylor did him.



The thing about GGG is that he doesn't wait to throw punches. he unloads with both hands. he doesn't wait.

Calzaghe beat Hopkins with activity. throwing 65 punches a round. that is exactly the average # of punches GGG throws/round. Hopkins throws around 40 punches around.



Hopkins style does not bode well against high volume fighters. He pretty much lost to all the skilled high volume guys he fought.

He doesn't have any problems with high volume!!

He lost 8-4 or 7-5 against a prime Jones - for the same reason he lost the majority of fights apart from Kovalev. He lost to superior speed.

Taylor overwhelmed him with volume? No - stop trying to make up your own history, you have EXPOSED yourself as a little fan boy troll. He beat him with a double jab, reach and footwork, I don't remember what Taylor threw in those fights, and I don't care enough to look it up, but I know that it wouldn't have been more than 40 punches a round, in fact probably less than that.

When he fought Calzaghe he was beaten by a combination of things namely, again speed, and yes also by volume, although this was a very close fight which could have gone either way (I had Calzaghe). It wasn't just volume though, that is disrespectful to Calzaghe, he brings a lot of things to the ring, he is extremely versatile, and its his skill set and attributes coupled with volume that gave Hopkins issues. Calzaghe can take your offensive game away from you as well, and can be roughhouse, so there was a lot of different things at play in that fight.

Now in terms of GGG - a prime Hopkins would make him his *****. He has too much of everything, he is too complete for a fighter like GGG. He is too defensively sound, he is faster, he punches seriously hard at 160, he has a size advantage, reach advantage, he is a better boxer on the outside, better on the inside, smarter. GGG can punch harder, that is literally his only advantage.

He wouldn't allow GGG to just throw volume at him - plus GGG is too hittable himself and its not like he would be able to just stand their and leave his chin out to dry - Hopkins has sharp power, Calzaghe put pressure on him and tired him out, but he also made Hopkins miss, GGG is not nearly that elusive. Not to mention Calzaghe is a larger man, naturally a very big 168lber, and even he was wobbled by Hopkins when he was hit clean, and Calzaghe had a proven chin.

GGG is smaller and mark my words will have problems pushing back bigger fighters. I'm sorry he would get eaten alive by Hopkins - he get nullified and probably taken out.

I'm not sure why I even gave you the dignity of such a comprehensive reply, you are nothing but a troll and terrible poster. I don't wish to get into any kind of debate with such a person.

[LetOutTheCage]

Haggler, Hopkins, RJJ, SRL to name just a few. Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if someone like Duran beats GGG also. Thats not mentioning the past greats who were before my time (SRR, Monzon)

[robertzimmerman]

you are mentally deranged.

Joe Frazier was 205 lbs soaking wet and 5'11. today's HW's are 250 lb 6'8 giants.


how come the 6'0 200 lb heavies don't rule anymore? and haven't ruled since Lennox Lewis. Cus there are no more 5'11 black guys anymore? the talent pool has improved you menstruating female. think logically.


just LOL @ 5'10 Tyson even being a top 10 contender today. Governor Vitali would palm Tyson's head with one hand and beat him with the other.

You don't think Mike would be a top 10 contender today?

Ha!

Okay chief.

Not only would Mike destroy most of today's top 10, but the fighters he beat would all be top 10.

Like I said previously, you must be trolling me for a joke. Because I don't know how anybody could be so ****ing ignorant and ******.


Let's look who Mike beat over 25 years ago:

Tony Tucker
Michael Spinks
Larry Holmes
Frank Bruno

All those guys would be top 10 HW's today, and I'm talking about the exact versions who Mike beat.

If you don't agree, then just look at today's top 10 guys.


If you're being 100% genuine in all that you post, then I honestly pity you. You've taken clueless to a whole other level.

[robertzimmerman]

lol @ this mangina talking about emotional turmoil again. Oh roy's father said he was hurt. Oh roy was psychologically damaged like I was when my uncle touched me. i don't realize all that only makes me mentally weak. - RobertZimmerman


the emotional turmoil of the mangina aside.


The fact is Glen Johnson is more battle worn than Roy 7 losses vs 1 loss for Roy.


Glen Johnson is also older.


Roy got dominated up to the KO. Styles make fights. the facts back me. all you have are emotional opinoins.

Just a post full of NOTHING.

Again, find me just ONE PERSON who thinks that Roy would have lost to Glen in his prime.

Just ONE.


Roy at MW was a completely different fighter to the one who lost to Glen, you absolute spastic.

Not only that, Glen was stronger than Roy with a 75" reach.


At MW, when Roy was prime, he was bigger than GG. He had a 4-5" reach advantage, and he was heavier. Roy was a huge MW.

GG would never have bullied Roy and knocked him out like Glen did. Because at 25, Roy was a different animal. Again, look at his insane hand speed, his athleticism, reflexes, footwork, timing, variation, and his one punch knockout power.

I love GG. But Roy would have had a birthday in there against someone who is so easy to hit, with little head movement who marks up.


Your analogy holds no water whatsoever.