Name a 160 fighter in history that could beat GGG?

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You can't be serious.

Nobody could be this ignorant.

No, boxing hasn't progressed like some other sports have.

Just stop.

If you're trolling, it's really not funny.

If you're serious, then wow. You're clueless.

I'm a big fan of GG, but nuts like you is why he gets hated on.

The most excellent MW in history?

No.

Shut up you clown.

not a single logical point in this post. just menstrual flow.


Lmao



present the argument why boxing talent pool is not as big as it was in the 70s.

go ahead. i presented my points.

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Please put us out of our misery and tell us whether or not you're trolling for a joke.

Using Glen Johnson as evidence as to why GG would have beaten Roy at his prime at MW?

Ha!

Seriously?

That's like analysing how Danny Williams beat Mike Tyson, to put forward a case for how one of today's HW's could have beaten him.

******.

styles make fights. Glen Johnson was more war torn than Roy Jones Jr with more losses 7 and older.

if anything he was more washed up than RJJ. not the same as Danny Williams vs Tyson. it's more like Lewis vs Tyson.

Both old but styles make fights. you simply can't think straight.

[robertzimmerman]

not a single logical point in this post. just menstrual flow.


Lmao



present the argument why boxing talent pool is not as big as it was in the 70s.

go ahead. i presented my points.

I put forward logical points on the previous page.

Boxing does not progress in the same way that other sports do.

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Why are you comparing boxing with other sports you clown?

Why is he the heads on favourite over any MW in history?

Based on boxrec stats?

You must Big Drama's alt.

Surely we're not unlucky enough to have 2 ignorant simpletons on the same thread.

LOL @ this brain dead moron.


i'm comparing boxing to other sports because that is just the natural flow of athletes. sprinters run faster, jumpers jump higher, weight lifters lift more.


because better nutrition, bigger talent pool and better training facilities. Also better film study now because there is HD film.



that is straight up logic and reason.

Do you even know how to put forth an argument? are you brain dead?

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I put forward logical points on the previous page.

Boxing does not progress in the same way that other sports do.

put forth your reasoning. logical with numbers and comparisons.


btw i saw your reasoning

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Clearly that's not the case.
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you didn't offer any parallels, examples and logical deductions. that's all you offered. like a female.

[robertzimmerman]

styles make fights. Glen Johnson was more war torn than Roy Jones Jr with more losses 7 and older.

if anything he was more washed up than RJJ. not the same as Danny Williams vs Tyson. it's more like Lewis vs Tyson.

Both old but styles make fights. you simply can't think straight.

Just stop.

Go and find me just ONE person who thinks that Glen Johnson would have beaten Roy at his best.

The version of Roy who fought Glen was still shell shocked after his crushing defeat to Tarver. I love Glen. And I give him a lot of credit. But he was in the right place at the right time.

If you're looking at a fantasy fight between Roy and GG, then focus on Roy when he was prime at MW-SMW.

Roy was bigger than GG at MW. He had a reach advantage and was huge at the weight.

He had a huge advantage in speed.

He was much harder to hit with his unorthadox defence.

He had great athleticism, and a great variety of shots in his arsenal, which included one punch knockout power in either hand.

I love GG. But he's easy to hit and he marks up.

There's no way you could favour him over Roy at MW, based on how Glen Johnson beat him at 35, after having 50 plus fights that included coming back from HW.

Yes, GG is strong and he cuts the ring off. But Glen Johnson was stronger than Roy and he had a 75" reach. Roy was bullied. But again, he was faded, coming off a devastating loss. According to his father, he just went through the motions in training. He signed for the fight less than a month after Tarver. And he did it because he was embarrassed. He just wanted a quick win ASAP to eradicate his loss to Tarver. But he wasn't ready both mentally and physically. GG would never have bullied Roy at 25, in the same manner that Glen did when he was 35. It's like comparing Mike of the mid 80's, to the versions of him from the late 90's-early 00's. You're talking about 2 completely different fighters.

[robertzimmerman]

LOL @ this brain dead moron.


i'm comparing boxing to other sports because that is just the natural flow of athletes. sprinters run faster, jumpers jump higher, weight lifters lift more.


because better nutrition, bigger talent pool and better training facilities. Also better film study now because there is HD film.



that is straight up logic and reason.

Do you even know how to put forth an argument? are you brain dead?

Look, you ignorant clown:


Boxing is NOT THE SAME as other sports.


Could a top sprinter from 40 years ago beat a top sprinter of today? No!

Could a top swimmer from 40 years ago beat a top swimmer of today? No!


Could a top fighter from 40 years ago beat a top fighter of today? YES! Most definitely.

There'd be hundreds of logical examples to put forward.


Nutrition, sports science, and modern training equipment and facilities can aid an athlete. They can aid a fighter. But at the end of the day, a left hook is still a left hook. Boxing is an art with many things to master.

Boxing does not progress in the same way as other sports.

If it did, then today's top fighters would be THE BEST fighters of all time.


Your ignorant, so-called logic says:

Runners can run faster.

Swimmers can swim faster.

Boxers can fight better.


Again, no.

Today's MW's are nowhere near as good as the best MW's of the early 90's, which was a quarter of a century ago.


GG is not the best MW of all time, just because Usain Bolt is the fastest runner of all time and Michael Phelps is the fastest swimmer of all time.


It's pure and utter ignorance of the highest order.

Don't ever compare a guy running around a track against a clock, to a man fighting another man in a boxing ring.

[robertzimmerman]

put forth your reasoning. logical with numbers and comparisons.


btw i saw your reasoning

"
Clearly that's not the case.
"


you didn't offer any parallels, examples and logical deductions. that's all you offered. like a female.

Logic?

NONE of your posts contain logic.


You think GG is the best MW of all time because of how swimming and sprinting have progressed.

Pathetic.


Again, if boxing progressed in the same way, then today's fighters would be classed as the best fighters in each division.

Who believes that to be true?

Today's HW's are no better than the best HW's of the 70's, 80's and 90's.


Stop talking bollocks that makes people hate on GG.

[robertzimmerman]

LOL @ this brain dead moron.


i'm comparing boxing to other sports because that is just the natural flow of athletes. sprinters run faster, jumpers jump higher, weight lifters lift more.


because better nutrition, bigger talent pool and better training facilities. Also better film study now because there is HD film.



that is straight up logic and reason.

Do you even know how to put forth an argument? are you brain dead?

For all the talk of film, there's skills that aren't as common anymore:

In-fighting and double hooks etc.


For all the talk of nutrition and sports science:

Many fighters today would struggle to fight 15 rounds.


Today's fighters don't learn their craft in the same manner. The legendary trainers are no longer with us.


Today's guys don't fight as often against every style imaginable on the way up.


Today's guys don't progress in the same way due to having 4 main Organisations and multiple belts that are on offer.


You're a boxrec warrior who debates using stats.

Yes, GG is great. Yes, he's undefeated. But that doesn't mean a fighter from the past couldn't have beaten him.

Great fighters lost a fair few fights in the past.

It doesnt mean anything.

If you had a time machine and dropped Floyd into Robbo's era, he would never have retired undefeated.


Lay off boxrec and go and watch some more footage.

[yngwie]

-Sugar Ray Robinson: Too fast, too strong, too skilled, when GGG discovered the power and speed of Lemeiux, he choose to box him, but he can't outbox Ray, Ray would box around him all night and if GGG chooses to go toe a toe, Ray's speed would explode every opening. Ray by TKO or decision.
-Marvin Hagler: The chin and toughness to take the best of GGG, and much better boxer that is given credit for, southpaw and with a great jab and footwork i can see him outboxing GGG.
-Carlos Monzon: You can't take Monzon out of his gameplan, and GGG can't walk trough him, Monzon would stick to his great 1-2 and would outbox GGG. Monzon Decision.
-James Toney: GGG is made for Toney, no more to say. Toney wide decision or TKO (will see how GGG's chin holds up at a higher level).
-Roy Jones: GGG great footwork is his best weapon against Jones, but Roy is smart, everytime Gennady let his hands go, Roy would counter-punch him, everytime, i just can't see a fighter with slow feet beating Jones. Jones wide decision.
-Chris Eubank: Eubank was unbreakable, so GGG beating him to death is out of conversation, it's kinda clear that Eubank possesses fast, compact and undetectable punches that would give GGG hell, Eubank close Decision.
-Bernard Hopkins: Like with Toney, Hopkins love that kind of fighters, but GGG is fairly skilled so i don't think Hopkins puts a schooling on this one, B-HOP close Decision.
-Michael Nunn: His footwork was spectacular, he was almost a perfect fighter, the same Jones would do to GGG, Nunn by decision.
-Gerald McClellan: His chin was too good to be real, he was also faster, stronger and probably a harder puncher than GGG, G-MAN by KO.
-Mike McCallum: Just too skilled for almost everyone, you have to outbox McCallum, is the only way and GGG isn't out-boxing him. Mike by decision.