Name a 160 fighter in history that could beat GGG?

[robertzimmerman]

that's your opinion.


however there is a very strong case to be made that he beats every SMW in history heads up just like here.


and guess what Joey Zag wasn't as dominant as GGG is now.

He was more dominant as in he held all of the belts and made more defences.

The fact that you don't agree, just emphasises my point.

Statistics don't allow for circumstances.

There's more to it than just quoting numbers.

[Madison Boxing]

Rubin Carter is class. Feel free to watch him fight.



He absolutely could beat GGG.

you should have put up the video where he lost to the british guy who was 22-15 lol. did actually briefly watch some of his clips yesterday and sorry the guys from that do not look the same level as the guys from today especially defensively (chin in the air when throwing, not much head movement, simple footwork), dont want to open up another can of worms but that is my opinion.

[Kigali]

if rubin was alive in today's MW talent pool. he wouldn't even sniff at the title. GGG would be safe then.

GGG's terrified team would offer him 5 % then claim he was ducking.

[Kigali]

you should have put up the video where he lost to the british guy who was 22-15 lol. did actually briefly watch some of his clips yesterday and sorry the guys from that do not look the same level as the guys from today especially defensively (chin in the air when throwing, not much head movement, simple footwork), dont want to open up another can of worms but that is my opinion.

Dumb as donkey shi.t

You just described GGG

[Madison Boxing]

Ive watched plenty of their fights. I posted a Carter fight above.

and ive liked some of your other posts on threads so dont want to come across as an arse. But sick to death of the grief im getting for thinking some old timers who were never even champs would destroy golvokin lol

[HeadShots]

He was more dominant as in he held all of the belts and made more defences.

The fact that you don't agree, just emphasises my point.

Statistics don't allow for circumstances.

There's more to it than just quoting numbers.

numbers and facts has to be the pillars of your logic and reason. numbers and facts are more concrete than discussing intangibles. that is how women talk. you have a female mind. you think very emotionally.

just like how when i presented facts about the Glen Johnson RJJ fight about styles. you totally went into a menstrual tantrum without any logic, facts nor reason. you just spewed a bunch of emotional excuses like you're his wife or something.


very bizaare behavior for a man. indeed.

[robertzimmerman]

and to all you idiots piping up. I highly highly highly doubt youve watched significant number of fights of these old timers you are bringing up. I can form opinions from reading records. Do i need to watch all 39 fights of someone who was 27-12 to say that he probably isnt going to beat golovkin? Its called logic ffs. Its like me saying oh some guy who was 30-15 from the 60s would beat mayweather, you all laughing, then me saying oh well youve never seen this guy fight, so how the **** do you know?!
Just easy for you all to try and make me look ****** 'oh haha your a noob you never watched (insert some random guy from the 50's here) fight'. Makes me laugh that you say i use boxrec and then you all start quoting some real detailed **** about some obscure fights from 50 years ago, as if thats come fresh from your memory.

You can't form a strong opinion using boxrec.

Again, statistics don't allow for circumstances.

If you don't know anything about Carter, then say: "I don't know anything about Carter, so I can't really comment. But I believe GG would beat Monzon, based on....."

People would respect that.

That's far better than having a quick look at his record and then scoffing at the claims that he could have beaten GG or caused him trouble.

A fighters record only gives you a vague idea as to who they were.

Ray Robinson lost 19 times. That's a lot of defeats. Would you laugh at the notion that he could have beaten Floyd at WW, because he lost so many times and Floyd was undefeated?

There's far more to look at than numbers.

You and Headshots have to be the same guy.

Instead of giving us a breakdown regarding the likes of Nunn, all you've got is:

"There's no way Nunn could have beaten GG, not when he lost to a guy called Steve Little"

It's pathetic.

[HeadShots]

Yes the likes Macklin and Rubio would have had him shaking in his boots

Macklin's record in the much bigger talent pool of boxing today is

35-6

Rubio is 59-8




Rubin Carter was 28-12 standing at 5'8.



you simply do not have your faculties straight. YDKSAB. period.

[HeadShots]

You can't form a strong opinion using boxrec.

Again, statistics don't allow for circumstances.

If you don't know anything about Carter, then say: "I don't know anything about Carter, so I can't really comment. But I believe GG would beat Monzon, based on....."

People would respect that.

That's far better than having a quick look at his record and then scoffing at the claims that he could have beaten GG or caused him trouble.

A fighters record only gives you a vague idea as to who they were.

Ray Robinson lost 19 times. That's a lot of defeats. Would you laugh at the notion that he could have beaten Floyd at WW, because he lost so many times and Floyd was undefeated?

There's far more to look at than numbers.

You and Headshots have to be the same guy.

Instead of giving us a breakdown regarding the likes of Nunn, all you've got is:

"There's no way Nunn could have beaten GG, not when he lost to a guy called Steve Little"

It's pathetic.

nope i can base my opinions on facts. i prefer that and it's always more accurate. All scouting reports are #'s first. intangibles later.



for example SSR lost to Jake Lamotta. A high volume, offensive swarmer with a granite chin. SSR CAN be smothered.



GGG can be an offensive swarmer if he chooses with high volume and he has an iron chin. Except he's more skilled, he's taller with more reach and he punches much harder.



This is why GGG would be a horrific heads up match for SSR.


That is logic, reason and facts.


you can't breakdown fighters to beat GGG because he simply hasn't come close to losing. that is why it's dishonest the other way. You would literally have to fantasize about GGG losing at this point.

[Tom Cruise]

and ive liked some of your other posts on threads so dont want to come across as an arse. But sick to death of the grief im getting for thinking some old timers who were never even champs would destroy golvokin lol

Thats just ignoring context though. There was only 1 champion in the past. GGG would be in the 'not even a champ' category right now as he hasnt ever beaten the man.

Im not even saying someone like Carter would defo beat GGG. But you asked who could beat him. Carter definitely could.

To your other post, even a quick search shows me Carter lost to Scott on cuts while winning the fight. They rematched and Carter won.

Hardly grounds for dismissing his entire career