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  • StefanTosic
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    #71
    Originally posted by Chadlio24
    He didn't bring him up, he already had 2 fighters flake out on fighting him and homeboy just so happen to have enough balls to step up and fight GGG...
    This right here! On the other hand I don't take very seriously GGG knocking out Kovalev with a body shot. Sure it shows that he's hell of a fighter and is a good thing for his team to mention when they want to hype him but it doesn't mean he would win against Kovalev in a real match. But the sentence I quoted is so true!
    Last edited by StefanTosic; 10-16-2016, 12:54 PM.

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    • BoxHec
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      #72
      Originally posted by SteveM
      You're English is not too bad so feel free to keep posting and welcome. You're logical reasoning on the other hand could do with a brush up.
      Originally posted by SteveM
      You're English is not too bad so feel free to keep posting and welcome. You're logical reasoning on the other hand could do with a brush up.
      That's worst! I can't change it on google translation... but I though about the "reasoning" point also but was lazy to try to find a 'reasonable' explanation in English
      But thanks for your welcome, I was seriously thinking of deleting my account, but I will try to be more "brief" on my posts (right after that one)

      For Jacobs I though he won his WBA title by defeated Quillin (so worked hard for 5 years to become world champ again after losing to Pirlog) but now of course I want him to face Golovkin and then the winner taking on Sanders... and if Golovkin beat Jacobs, Sanders, Canelo and the record of Hopkins I would like to see him fighting at 168... but as for the record of titles defenses: that will not change my point of view about who is (are) the greatest(s) middleweight of all time

      And no doubt I also have a huge respect for Hopkins' accomplishment and longevity ("B-Hopgevity"?), and also for his smartness, boxing IQ, mental strength, self confidence, clean life (no alcohol, drugs or bad foods), mental games, life history after being in jail at a young age etc etc... he's an Alien!

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      • Shadoww702
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        #73
        Originally posted by Chadlio24
        He didn't bring him up, he already had 2 fighters flake out on fighting him and homeboy just so happen to have enough balls to step up and fight GGG... He has to stay active, when people say they want to fight so badly and then bail when it's time to sign the contract is some B.S. Don't get into boxing if you wanna be a big pu**y!!! He wants to break dip****s record and unify the division and then I'm sure he will move up and break Ward's face afterward, sad part is that it's already about to get broken by Kovalev!!!
        Good Luck thinking Ward is gonna get smashed by Kovalov. Most ppl have this a 50/50 fight with casuals favoring Kovalov. Slightly and experts didn't with Ward slightly....I'm sure casinos will gladly take your $$$.you should go with your gut and put $$$$ on Kov. Early KO.

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        • aboutfkntime
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          #74
          Originally posted by BoxHec
          Hahaha, actually you can have 6 world champions by classes (at least!), that's why not many can be "undisputed world champion" but Golovkin is really close...

          But don't worry i want to see Ward beat Kovalev...

          And once again for the "fkn idiots"
          On the WBA site:
          MIDDLEWEIGHT
          WBA SUPER CHAMPION: GENNADY GOLOVKIN
          WBA WORLD CHAMPION: DANIEL JACOBS

          nah, that's bull****.....

          champion
          ˈtʃampɪən/Submit
          noun
          1.
          a person who has surpassed all rivals in a sporting contest or other competition.


          around about 50 years ago, when the second sanctioning organisation emerged..... everyone laughed, and most are still laughing

          only new, mostly casual, fans accept/support/condone that mindless rubbish

          how long have you been following this sport ?

          And if you think that a single sanctioning body can have multiple "champions" within the same division..... then you are dumb as fk kid

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          • aboutfkntime
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            #75
            Originally posted by MisanthropicNY
            You aren't very bright are you? Kell Brook couldn't make 147 anymore and was even struggling to make 160 in the GGG fight. GGG made weight easier than Kell - but Kell is going to 154. GGG doesn't even weigh 175 on his fight nights - it makes no sense to move up two weight divisions because anti-White racist haters online feel insecure to know that Canelo and Floyd both ducked GGG and Floyd ducked at 54' where he was undisputed champ.

            you fkn dumbass

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            • aboutfkntime
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              #76
              Originally posted by IMDAZED
              Abel is like bad karma for GGG. Not that good of a trainer, arrogant and talks a lot of nonsense. Pretty much the exact opposite of Golovkin the fighter.

              Hopkins wasn't soundly beaten by Taylor. And to say he moved up to fight a guy with three losses as if that's some sort of criticism is like criticizing Manny Pacquiao for moving up to fight Marco Antonio Barrera. Hopkins moved up two divisions and fought Tarver, who was the lineal champ at 175, a consensus top 3-5 pound for pounder and was coming off a very impressive win over Glen Johnson. He was a huge favorite over Hopkins.

              I don't see any reason why GGG should move to 175 but Abel Sanchez would do well to stop moving his lips.

              great post !

              comparing Hopkins to Golovkin, in any way, is ridiculous.

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              • aboutfkntime
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                #77
                Originally posted by Bronx2245
                I've been waiting for an opportunity to bring up something i've been dwelling on for months, and I think this is a good forum to present my concern. Hopkins and many others, including myself, have been asking GGG to make a move to 168, 175, etc. If Andre Ward is not just defeated by Kovalev, but beaten, it would be critical to his legacy, that he come back to 168 and face GGG! If Kovalev beats him, Beterbiev probably beats him, and Stevenson probably beats him! There's a big difference between losing and being beaten! Sullivan Barerra lost to Andre Ward. Julio Chavez Jr. was beaten by Andrezj Fonfara! If Andre Ward is beaten by Sergey Kovalev, he will NEED to face GGG, and will not have any of the leverage he had in 2013, 2014, or 2015! I wonder if Bernard Hopkins would agree?

                I don't agree with that at all.

                I don't agree that Ward needs Golovkin at all, for any reason whatsoever..... no way will Golovkin ever match Ward's resume, he won't even get close.

                The guy who turned down 10mil to fight Canelo will never build a meaningful legacy..... he would have to take those fights, not refuse them.

                I don't believe that Golovkin would ever fight Andre Ward.

                Maybe, moving back down to 168, would depend on the manner of loss..... but if Ward loses to Kovalev then he needs to do what every other great fighter would do..... get back in line.

                He would need to beat Stevenson, Beterbiev, and any other rated up-and-comer, to earn that rematch.

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                • aboutfkntime
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by SteveM
                  I really like Golovkin as a fighter but Ramirez is all wrong for him. He would have absurd height and reach advantage, especially reach. I G ever beats Ramirez I'll be amazed and impressed. Jack and DeGale would see G in with a better chance.

                  whoah, whoah, whoah..... you guys all said he could beat Andre fkn Ward LMAO

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                  • jwalkr
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                    #79
                    Hopkins was known for staying at middleweight forever. And fed on many scrubs while there. And why doesn't he suggest Canelo fight the winner of Kovalev-Ward? These boxers & promoters really think fans are morons.

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                    • Bronx2245
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by aboutfkntime
                      I don't agree with that at all.

                      I don't agree that Ward needs Golovkin at all, for any reason whatsoever..... no way will Golovkin ever match Ward's resume, he won't even get close.

                      The guy who turned down 10mil to fight Canelo will never build a meaningful legacy..... he would have to take those fights, not refuse them.

                      I don't believe that Golovkin would ever fight Andre Ward.

                      Maybe, moving back down to 168, would depend on the manner of loss..... but if Ward loses to Kovalev then he needs to do what every other great fighter would do..... get back in line.

                      He would need to beat Stevenson, Beterbiev, and any other rated up-and-comer, to earn that rematch.
                      Stevenson and Beterbiev are already fights that are tough to make because of network issues. Like I said, if Ward gets "beaten," not just defeated, he has to go back to 168, and chase GGG for his legacy fight!

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