Golovkin has quietly taken on the same level of opposition as DSG this year.

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  • frantic fighter
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    #41
    Originally posted by boliodogs
    beating a former champion doesn't mean much if that former champion is unranked and shot to hell when he fought them. Herrera never was ranked in the top 10 in his whole career. Judah, Morales and Campbell were shot when Garcia beat them. Garcia did not defeat almost twice as many champions in two years as GGG did in his whole career. You are a lying hater and you can't even count. That's pathetic.You don't know **** about boxing but you sure think you know everything.
    Herrera has been ranked in the top ten during his career. The Judah and first Morales fights are both decent wins. Peterson,Matthysse,and Khan are all higher rated fighters than anyone on Golovkin's resume.

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      #42
      Originally posted by frantic fighter
      Guerrero wasn't ranked as low when Danny faced him. Wade had nothing before fighting Golovkin and was lucky to get a decision against Soliman. The fact that he is ranked anywhere near the top ten at middle speaks to how weak the talent level is in that division.
      I can only see where the fighters are ranked now. There is no way I know to go back to when Garcia fought him to see where Guererro was ranked then. I do remember him being ranked well down in the 20s. He had his ass soundly kicked by Thurman not that long before he fought Garcia. You remember Thurman, that champion Garcia is afraid to fight. Middleweight is as strong as any other weight class. It's the GGG haters who say it's so weak to try to discredit his middleweight wins. If Garcia was a middleweight he would duck GGG the same way he ducks Thurman now.

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        #43
        Brook=Thread Fail.

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          #44
          Originally posted by boliodogs
          I can only see where the fighters are ranked now. There is no way I know to go back to when Garcia fought him to see where Guererro was ranked then. I do remember him being ranked well down in the 20s. He had his ass soundly kicked by Thurman not that long before he fought Garcia. You remember Thurman, that champion Garcia is afraid to fight. Middleweight is as strong as any other weight class. It's the GGG haters who say it's so weak to try to discredit his middleweight wins. If Garcia was a middleweight he would duck GGG the same way he ducks Thurman now.
          Guerrero also received a very disputable decision against Aaron Martinez before Garcia. He was almost knocked out cold in that fight, too. He went to war with Kamegai before Thurman. He lost to Peralta after Garcia.

          I like Guerrero, but he was nowhere near a top 10 fighter when Garcia fought him, and Garcia really shouldn't get much credit for going to war with him.

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            #45
            There must be some kind of NSB rule where when you post a thread about GGG you have to bring up in the thread somewhere that Golovkin's team said 4 years ago they would fight anybody from 154-168.

            Even if the guy consistently makes efforts to try to unify 160.

            It's literally in every single thread like this.
            LOL.

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            • j0zef
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              #46
              Actually, Wade is better than both Vargas and Guerrero, which is sad. Those guys aren't even in top20.

              And Wade got knocked out in 2 while DSG pulled out a 116-112 decision over Guerrero.

              But yeah, TOTALLY the same.

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                #47
                Originally posted by frantic fighter
                The point is Guerrero has been at Welterweight for almost half a decade now,aging or not he fought in Danny's division and had challenged for two titles already in the division. Brook was a decent welterweight,but from his level of opposition it would be impossible to make the claim that he was the best. Also lol at him being one the best you've ever seen. you reach any further you're going to be needing a new arm.



                i called him one of the biggest. which he is. you skipped three letters .

                lol at you being hardly capable of reading.


                brook beat porter more convincingly than thurman did. prior to thurman - porter there was no argument for thurman being the higher ranked welterweight.

                unless you want to rate pacquiao as a welterweigth there's really no argument for anybody other than thurman or brook being considered the best at the division.


                in short, i question your boxing knowledge in addition to your reading comprehension .
                Last edited by New England; 10-13-2016, 10:25 AM.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by boliodogs
                  I can only see where the fighters are ranked now. There is no way I know to go back to when Garcia fought him to see where Guererro was ranked then. I do remember him being ranked well down in the 20s. He had his ass soundly kicked by Thurman not that long before he fought Garcia. You remember Thurman, that champion Garcia is afraid to fight. Middleweight is as strong as any other weight class. It's the GGG haters who say it's so weak to try to discredit his middleweight wins. If Garcia was a middleweight he would duck GGG the same way he ducks Thurman now.
                  I do know Thurman, the guy that Garcia is scheduled to fight the first quarter of next year. Garcia already worked over his divisions version of Golovkin (Matthysse) and is moving on to bigger and better things.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by jreckoning
                    There must be some kind of NSB rule where when you post a thread about GGG you have to bring up in the thread somewhere that Golovkin's team said 4 years ago they would fight anybody from 154-168.

                    Even if the guy consistently makes efforts to try to unify 160.

                    It's literally in every single thread like this.
                    LOL.
                    As it should be for a reality check to those that still maintain that he seeks out the best opposition, and to magnify his lack of credibility.

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                    • frantic fighter
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by New England
                      i called him one of the biggest. you skipped three letters .

                      lol at you being hardly capable of reading.


                      brook beat porter more convincingly than thurman did. prior to thurman - porter there was no argument for thurman being the higher ranked welterweight.

                      unless you want to rate pacquiao as a welterweigth there's really no argument for anybody other than thurman or brook being considered the best at the division.


                      in short, i question your boxing knowledge in addition to your reading comprehension .
                      Boxing doesn't work IP n hypotheticals Brook didn't prove anything by getting a split nod over the only decent opponent that he faced in his entire career.

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