Would Golovkin get credit for beating Badou Jack?

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  • youbeight
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    #61
    Originally posted by SilverMiles
    He was the underdog only because he got KTFO. But Anthiny Dirrell himself wasn't very proven.

    I think a fight between Lemiuex and Jack would be competitive.
    so let me guess this straight, jack isnt proven enough for ggg, lemieux is proven and can become more proven after losing to ggg but lemieux vs jack is competitive lmfao?

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    • boliodogs
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      #62
      Haters would give him no credit. GGG fans would give him credit for a good win. Jack is a champion and I am one of the few who think Jack will beat DeGale.

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      • bojangles1987
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        #63
        Originally posted by StefanTosic
        A great point! I agree with you 100%! The thing is Jack became a very nice boxer, he would be a very good win in my book, but so was Lemieux and he was getting treated as a bum on here because of the losses you mentioned, which happened when he was a young kid.
        Lemieux doesn't have wins like Jack has accumulated in his reign so far. Lemieux is a nice win, but he's still very unproven among the best middleweights. He's not alone in that, but it's still true.

        That's not the case with Jack. Badou Jack is a proven super middleweight champion and Golovkin would get a lot of credit for beating him. Honestly, comparing Jack to Lemieux is pretty ridiculous because they are not even comparable.

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        • bojangles1987
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          #64
          Originally posted by IMDAZED
          Anyone who thinks David Lemieux is on par or better than Badou Jack is a ****ing idiot. Dirrell, Bute and Groves in his last three fights and you wanna compare Lemieux? For the sake of boxing, find another sport.
          Pretty much. I like Lemieux, and I'm so glad he stepped up to fight Golovkin, but he's not even close to Badou Jack. It's not a debate at all, and the only people who would pretend it is, like I said earlier, are Golovkin fans making excuses.

          Moving up in weight to beat one of the 2 or 3 best fighters at super middleweight, who happens to be one of the most proven fighters at 168 BTW, is a much, much better win than Lemieux. It would easily be the best win of Golovkin's career. How can anyone dispute that?

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          • SilverMiles
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            #65
            Originally posted by youbeight
            and you think lemieux is lmao ?
            I think he's more proven than Dirrell atleast. Take it how want to.

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            • Scipio2009
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              #66
              Originally posted by SilverMiles
              I mean he get very little credit for beating David Lemieux because of his losses five years prior but Badou was kayoed in the very first round by a journeymen and barely scrapped by Alexander Brand. He drew with Periban who isn't really that good.

              So based on all this I assume he doesn't get credit because by NSB standards Jack is a bum.

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              Badou Jack is a world-rated (depending on whom/what you trust, he's easily in the top 3, no worse than top five, at the weight) champion in the weight class above.

              Try and diminish the man (in a silly attempt to justify Golovkin not moving for any sort of challenge) all you want.

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              • AD86
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                #67
                I would give him a lot more credit for stepping up and beating Jack than I would for beating a career welterweight anyway, in fact I would easily class it as the best win of his career.

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                • The Comic DON
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by Guerrero's Dad
                  You don't consider the Dirrell, Groves, Bute run decent?
                  Yeah i consider those wins decent and I consider Jack a decent fighter but nothing more until proven otherwise. He needs a clear cut decision over Degale for me to consider him good. Shouldn't be too hard to do since Degale is riddled with flaws.

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                  • Tony Trick-Pony
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by bigdramashow
                    yeah, i get that accusation all the time 'your scared to see GGG take a risk' no im not. i'd still be a huge fan of his win or lose cause i like his style and attitude. Same as loma and kovalev. Saying that, i believe GGG would beat anyone at 160 and 168.
                    I think he would, too. 168 may be his only option though. These 160-pounders don't want to step up. I think the 168-ers would fight him, though.

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                    • SilverMiles
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Scipio2009
                      Badou Jack is a world-rated (depending on whom/what you trust, he's easily in the top 3, no worse than top five, at the weight) champion in the weight class above.

                      Try and diminish the man (in a silly attempt to justify Golovkin not moving for any sort of challenge) all you want.
                      You're so full of hatred for Golovkin that you come to ****** conclusions.

                      Point out where I discredit or diminish Jack. I'll be waiting.

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