Comments Thread For: Golden Boy Prez: Canelo Has One Goal - To Fight Golovkin!

[Uncle Rodge]

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Because he's not a real fighter.

[PunchyPotorff]

For all the ggg fans saying Canelo offered ggg peanuts let me break it down as simple as possible.
Let's do Simple Math. Ggg will Stand to make $15-20 million after its all said and done. I'll make it easier for you. Against mayweather, Canelo made $5 million vs mayweathers $40 million. That means they made a combined $45 million which came out to Canelo 11% and mayweather 89% with Canelo bringing 2 JMW belts to the table. This fight also sold 2.1 million ppv's which was the highest sold ppv at the time. Next example: Canelo vs cotto- Canelo made $5 million vs cottos $15 million for a combined $20 million. Do the math. Canelo made 25% and cotto 75%. Are you still with me? Present day Canelo vs ggg. Ggg will make $15-$20 million vs Canelos $30-$40 million. This is all depends on how good the ppv sells. Let's do the math. Let's go low end (ggg) vs high end (canelo). If Canelo makes $40 million and ggg makes $15 million that's a combined total of $55 million. Ggg makes 27% and Canelo makes 73 %. Now let's look at GGG's high end vs Canelos low end. If ggg makes $20 million and Canelo makes $30 million that's a combined $50 million. Ggg gets 40% and Canelo gets 60%. Still following?! Now let's look at both fighters high end. If ggg gets $20 million and Canelo gets $40 million that's $60 million. Ggg gets 33% and Canelo gets 67%. This is as simple as I can explain it so you and every ggg fan can understand. 8 figures does not mean 2,3,4,5,6,7,8,or 9 million. It means a guaranteed at least $10 million right of the back plus a ppv percentage. Canelo took a guaranteed $5 million for cotto and mayweather. He's offering ggg at least double that for a fight that's not guaranteed to sell 2 million ppv's

Careful friend, GGG fans don't use anything even in the ballpark of logic or reasoning. All they know is whining.

[PunchyPotorff]

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Originally Posted by daggum View Post
if he wanted the fight they would have went to purse bid and canelo could have taken 75 percent of the purse to ggg's 25. he gave khan 37 percent of the purse sooo money was not the reason they didn't take the fight.

Hey genius, as the interim champion Golovkin was guaranteed 45% of a purse bid. So let's see, 2 weeks to negotiate a deal or go to purse bid and take short money? Easy choice, drop the belts and try to negotiate later.

Dang, we finally agree on something.

[puroylan]

Most of the boxing press are saying Kentucky Fried Chanelo (KFC) is ducking GGG. I believe them coz real Mexican don't Fu&% around! Admit the fact that Duckanelo is afraid of GGG.

[PunchyPotorff]

Fact- GBP made and offer to K2
Fact- K2 has yet to formally respond
Fact- Alvarez is the A side
Fact- Golovkin does not generate much revenue as the marquee
Fact- Golovkin has never been in a meaningful fight.
Fact- Alvarez has fought in multiple meaningful fights at 154 and 155.

Which fighter needs the other to make big money or to legitimize himself on the boxing landscape?

Dang... we agree again. Holy moly... is it full moon tonight? Something eerie must be on the horizon.

[PunchyPotorff]

[QUOTE=rrayvez;17107156]

Fact- GBP made and offer to K2. (yes an offer to fight 14 months from now)
Fact- K2 has yet to formally respond (false, both parties acknowledged they are actively negotiating)
Fact- Alvarez is the A side (true)
Fact- Golovkin does not generate much revenue as the marquee (neither does Canelo, every Canelo ppv where he is the A side has underperformed)
Fact- Golovkin has never been in a meaningful fight. (false, world title fights are cinisdered meaningful)
Fact- Alvarez has fought in multiple meaningful fights at 154 and 155. (maybe, but his last 2 opponents have been pointless cherry picks)

Which fighter needs the other to make big money or to legitimize himself on the boxing landscape?[(in the boxing world, ggg is recognized as the most feared boxer today and the most dominant fighter of any weight class. Canelo is looked at as a fearful protected fighter who gave away his belt to avoid finally fighting someone he doesn't enjoy a great weight advantage over. Canelo may be the biggest option for ggg but Canelo won't do big ppv numbers ever again unless ggg is involved. /QUOTE]

Canelo brought in 51K last fight vs an unknown. GGG can't do half that. And Canelo will have made 3 times what GGG makes when their careers are over. GGG's drawing power is weak, he's the B-side, he's fought less formidable competition than Canelo, the list goes on. He's only 'skeered' in you GGG-aholic's minds. Your analogy doesn't hold water, friend.

[PunchyPotorff]

As I understood, GGG was offered 10M $, NO PPV percentage. So GGG gets flat fee no matter how much fight gathers. "Upside" is not a PPV percentage.
GGG gets 10M and Canelo 50M. GGG gets 17% to Canelo 83%. And if fight makes around 100M, it will be even worse for GGG. So it is a smart business decision not to take such low-ball offer.

I've always thought that's exactly what 'upside' means. They're in negotiations stage now from what I've read. Now if GGG (the B-side) plays hardball, yeah the fight may not happen. But if GGG's side wakes up and realizes they aren't the big draw, we'll indeed have a fight. If not, they're the ones to blame. 10 mil + perks is easily the biggest check your goofball mugged hero will ever make. His side needs to just wake up and sign the papers.

[PunchyPotorff]

Immediately after accusing Canelo of being a businessman, Golovkin.....

* did the exact same thing by selecting the welterweight Brook
* passed on Canelo for the SECOND time, this time refusing 10mil
* low-balled Jacobs, and then forced an early purse-bid

#biznessmandoe

Yep. GGG's people have proven they're all on a different page... from Abel to the top dog of their promoter company. The various quotes over the past few weeks prove that. GGG fans just don't wanna accept their hero is the B-side and nothing more.

[CoachMac34]

GGG's team has acknowledged that Canelo is the A-side. They just want a fair split of the revenues. I think 65/35 is about right, after all GGG is bringing 4 belts while Canelo is only bringing his name. Both guys are already millionaires, but they need each other.

[Cinci Champ]

i honestly have always thought canelo wanted the fight. i even believe gbp in general wants the fight i just think oscar is greedy and has this vision of this fight being bigger then it actually is