Comments Thread For: Here's Why Lampley's Attack on PBC Amounts To HBO Hypocrisy

[Jubei]

How does Boxingscene allow such a biased PBC cheerleading apologist to post his slander here?

[MDPopescu]

Just look at PBC most significant fights so far:

Stevenson vs Bika,
Lee vs Quillin,
Khan vs Algieri,
Dirrell vs DeGale,
Frampton vs Gonzalez,
Thurman vs Collazo,
Santa Cruz vs Mares,
Fonfara vs Cleverly
Figueroa vs DeMarco
Garcia vs Guerrero
Spence vs Algieri
Ortiz vs Berto
Barthelemy vs Bey
Thurman vs Porter
Fonfara vs Smith Jr
Wilder vs Arreola
Spence vs Bundu
Jacobs vs Mora

Jacobs vs Quillin – produced by Showtime, not PBC…

[even Thurman vs Porter was also produced by Showtime for PBC on CBS]

[Johnwoo8686]

HBO calls the fights on PBC mismatches but has broadcasted several huge mismatches just this year. Khan vs Canelo, GGG vs Brook were both matches where everyone knew who was going to win. But HBO broadcasted them as main events and even put one on pay per view.

I saw Porter vs Thurman and that was a damn good fight. There have been several good fights and decent matches on PBC but HBO and their execs don't like that they have a rival. Boxing on free television is a good thing. Boxing on free television is what made it so popular in the 80s.

Boxing will NEVER reach the heights of it's former popularity with idiots like Jim Lampley and Steve Kim bashing fighters and promoters. How the hell can you sell a product to the general public if you bash the product itself?

This is why the UFC is killing boxing right now. They put on mismatches and boring fights all the time, and they lowball the fighters but they are more popular than boxing. Why? Because they know how to sell a product and know how to market it. Fighters with 11 losses and no title fight wins are called great fighters. But in boxing you can be an undefeated champion with multiple title fight wins against other champions and these ****heads will find a way to hate.

[PACnPBFsuck]

"The money isn’t coming out of our pockets, not even in small amounts on our cable or satellite bills"

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But the ******s want PBC to go away

[IMDAZED]

Just look at PBC most significant fights so far:

Stevenson vs Bika,
Lee vs Quillin,
Khan vs Algieri,
Dirrell vs DeGale,
Frampton vs Gonzalez,
Thurman vs Collazo,
Santa Cruz vs Mares,
Fonfara vs Cleverly
Figueroa vs DeMarco
Garcia vs Guerrero
Spence vs Algieri
Ortiz vs Berto
Barthelemy vs Bey
Thurman vs Porter
Fonfara vs Smith Jr
Wilder vs Arreola
Spence vs Bundu
Jacobs vs Mora

Jacobs vs Quillin – produced by Showtime, not PBC…

[even Thurman vs Porter was also produced by Showtime for PBC on CBS]

You do realize that as part of their deal, PBC doesn't produce their NBC events? So dumb you think that getting the network to pay for it is a bad thing

[Porter's Dad]

I agree most of the top 10 guys are HBo affiliated but think at least a couple PBC guys have done enough resume wise ,eye test or whatever that they should be on the list,

But just wanted to get my point across though that they clearly have bias on those lists and can't be taken seriously

I don't think you can completely minimize the ratings they've achieved, it's the best rating boxing has got in years. When Duva had her NBC cards she didn't achieve anywhere near those numbers.

Isn't GGg/Wade HBOs highest rated broadcast this year something like 1.2-1.3 for a 2 round fight. I'm sure if you avg out their entire sched this year and did the whole card ratings like PBc does that it's on par or slightly above Spike. Which is like PBC 4th option. That's a steep fall for a network that was once the dominant leader in the sport.

Killer post. Giving PBC the benefit of the doubt is OVER. The experiment has failed, and will keep failing.

The Emperor has no clothes, and all it has been to long of seeing everything Haymon touches turn to **** (to the benefit of his own personal wealth) Let some of the PBC fighters run their agreements down with him and become free agents, and maybe we can get some better fights again.

[Ake-Dawg]

Another book that no one will read. To me, the article said three things. Lampleys rant was an unprofessional journalistic opinion, it's weird for fans to assume to know the financial status of pbc, and pbc has to make adjustments to truly be successful.

Not sure why you wrote a book to attack Idec and the article unless you felt compelled to defend Lampley or you are just a Haymon PBC hater.

[Madison Boxing]

why are people so defensive about protected boxing champions (PBC). its a load of ****, sooner it goes bust the better. jsut a bunch of **** match ups

[Ake-Dawg]

Killer post. Giving PBC the benefit of the doubt is OVER. The experiment has failed, and will keep failing.

The Emperor has no clothes, and all it has been to long of seeing everything Haymon touches turn to **** (to the benefit of his own personal wealth) Let some of the PBC fighters run their agreements down with him and become free agents, and maybe we can get some better fights again.

I for one want it to succeed. I want boxing on free tv. Don't give a crap who gets it done or how it gets done.

[SteveM]

Just look at PBC most significant fights so far:

Stevenson vs Bika,
Lee vs Quillin,
Khan vs Algieri,
Dirrell vs DeGale,
Frampton vs Gonzalez,
Thurman vs Collazo,
Santa Cruz vs Mares,
Fonfara vs Cleverly
Figueroa vs DeMarco
Garcia vs Guerrero
Spence vs Algieri
Ortiz vs Berto
Barthelemy vs Bey
Thurman vs Porter
Fonfara vs Smith Jr
Wilder vs Arreola
Spence vs Bundu
Jacobs vs Mora

Jacobs vs Quillin – produced by Showtime, not PBC…

[even Thurman vs Porter was also produced by Showtime for PBC on CBS]

I'm going to run with your list and add a couple of factors based on my subjective opinion - pre-fight anticipation and delivery -what the actual fight delivered on a scale of 1-10
Stevenson vs Bika, ANTICIPATION 2 DELIVERY 4
Lee vs Quillin, ANTICIPATION 5 DELIVERY 7
Khan vs Algieri, ANTICIPATION 3 DELIVERY 5
Dirrell vs DeGale ANTICIPATION 8 DELIVERY 8
Frampton vs Gonzalez, ANTICIPATION 5 DELIVERY 7
Thurman vs Collazo, ANTICIPATION 3 DELIVERY 3
Santa Cruz vs Mares ANTICIPATION 6 DELIVERY 6
Frampton vs Santa Cruz ANTICIPATION 9 DELIVERY 10
Fonfara vs Cleverly ANTICIPATION 3 DELIVERY 9
Figueroa vs DeMarco ANTICIPATION 1 DELIVERY ??
Garcia vs Guerrero ANTICIPATION 4 DELIVERY 4
Spence vs Algieri ANTICIPATION 5 DELIVERY 6
Ortiz vs Berto ANTICIPATION 4 DELIVERY 6
Barthelemy vs Bey ANTICIPATION 1 DELIVERY 3
Thurman vs Porter ANTICIPATION 10 DELIVERY 9
Fonfara vs Smith Jr ANTICIPATION 2 DELIVERY 8
Wilder vs Arreola ANTICIPATION 2 DELIVERY 4
Spence vs Bundu ANTICIPATION 3 DELIVERY 5
Jacobs vs Mora ANTICIPATION 1 DELIVERY 5
Jacobs vs Quillen ANTICIPATION 8 DELIVERY 5

Basically, therein lies the problem for most of these fights - no buildup in excitement due to poor matchmaking but in some cases, almost by accident the fights turned out to be much better - Cleverly-Fonfara for example.

I'm not saying HBO is better than PBC. I'm not talking about HBO at all - just PBC. With a stable of 200+ fighters there should be much better fights being made especially in divisions like WW - who wouldn't watch a mini tournament of Porter/Thurman/Garcia/Spence ? and nobody would quibble about seeing them get career high earnings for such fights.