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  • #91
    Originally posted by Red Cyclone View Post
    I think you're a troll for thinking Ward could beat Joe Calzaghe see how that one works.
    I would have viewed it as a genuine 50/50 fight.

    Joe could have won a UD on volume and workrate.

    Andre could have won a UD based on cleaner, more effective shots.

    Joe would not have beaten him easily.

    He's fought two guys in his career who were roughly the same size as Andre, and who like Andre, lacked huge power and who could fight really ugly at times:

    Bernard Hopkins and Sakio Bika.

    He struggled in both of those fights.

    Although Andre can fight dirty at times, skill-wise, he's obviously on another level to Bika.

    At 32 years age (or whichever version of him you chose) he wouldn't tire and look for breaks like how Bernard did at 43. Had Bernard not tired, that could have been a different fight altogether. I hated Bernard's tactics. They were ugly and horrible. But he needed to do it because he didn't have the stamina.

    Joe also struggled with Robin Reid.

    It's just a fantasy to say that Joe would have beaten him easily.

    Like I said previously, you're either trolling or you have zero knowledge.
    Last edited by robertzimmerman; 06-04-2018, 08:45 AM.

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    • #92
      Originally posted by Red Cyclone View Post
      Why don't you slow it down and count each one then lol, clinching isn't scoring shots either and Bernard did more clinching than he did with trying to land effective punches.

      The fight was a clear UD win for Joe who commanded the action for the majority of the fight apart from one fluke knock down Joe made adjustments and Bernard couldn't keep in the fight 116-111.
      Like I've said, it was mostly quality vs quantity.

      I could never put a lot of value into cuffing, ineffective shots, where he concentrated more on volume rather than accuracy.

      Even Enzo was convinced Bernard had won.

      He couldn't believe it when the result came in.

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      • #93
        Calzaghe too big

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        • #94
          Zags boxes him up. GGG will keep it close but he gets confused by the speed, angles and pace of the Welsh Dragon.

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          • #95
            Originally posted by robertzimmerman View Post
            Like I've said, it was mostly quality vs quantity.

            I could never put a lot of value into cuffing, ineffective shots, where he concentrated more on volume rather than accuracy.

            Even Enzo was convinced Bernard had won.

            He couldn't believe it when the result came in.
            Come on man, I was as big of a BHOP fan as anyone heading into that fight and I was embarrassed at how he had to fake low-blows and illegal punch damage in order to catch breathers because Joe was too much for him. He talked all that garbage pre-fight then got beaten by the guy moving up in weight.

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            • #96
              Calzaghe outbox gigigi

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              • #97
                3g cant live above mw.

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by Sadiqkingofko View Post
                  Calzaghe out boxes him for a wide UD
                  Yep.

                  Golovkin had his hands full with Danny Jacob's. His power is even less at SMW and as seen against his only 2 good opponents, who are not world class (Danny and CA$H), Gennady is about average or just a cut above.

                  Joe Calz wins a wide boring UD with possible stoppage or KD

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                  • #99
                    They are both each other's nightmare. While Joe is way too fast and busy for Gennady s liking, i'm not sure if any of his punches would bother GGG. Really intriguing match-up.

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                    • They are both each other's nightmare. While Joe is way too fast and busy for Gennady s liking, i'm not sure if any of his punches would bother GGG. Really intriguing match-up.

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