Prime for prime who wins at 168..Joe Calzaghe or GGG

[Derranged]

Everybody wilt Under his power.



You have those natural puncher, they have it in their hands, and they will hurt you despite a true weight difference.

From what I heard on YouTube, GGG is one of those guys, dude like Afolabi, big cruiserweight, or Gassiev, big cruiserweight too saying his power is impressive.

Nobody taking many GGG punches with pro gloves.

The question is more, what will happen in a fight where is opponent doesn't get HIT by his power/punches?

I was thinking that same thing after I posted this, if I'm reading you correctly. What happens when he fights a very elusive target? In a theoretical match, I think Calzaghe would give Golovkin hell with his hand speed, movement and odd angles. Also, when's the last time Golovkin fought a lefty?

[Sid-Knee]

Oh my, are people really picking Gennady??? Hahahahahahaha...

Joe in his prime would have pushed him on the back foot all night whilst giving him a one sided beating. Gennady can't counter-punch, and he's slow. No way he comes close to beating a prime Calzaghe. Hell, a past prime Joe clearly beats him. He's just too good alround for him.

And lets not forget that Joe had a great chin, so Gennady isn't coming close to stopping him. Behave yourselves with this, you've all gone crazy.

[DreamerUSA]

Possibly, but the thing I disagree with there is that Golovkin generally doesn't throw when he's being hit and he's not a sharp counter-puncher. He covers up or endures until he's gives a turn to strike back, then he strikes HARD. Joe wasn't generous about giving turns. He'd mob a guy, pivot when they were ready to strike back, then launch again before they had a chance to re-position. The reason I think GOlovkin beats Canelo is that Canelo plays defense and trades. Joe never did until the opponent was worn down and he needed them to open their defense. When Joe got trapped, he simply smothered and either clinched or pivoted his way out. I don't see anything about Golovkin that would stop Joe form doing that.

No disrespect to your theory, I just think the volume is the very thing that would win this.

No disrespect taken. I like talking shop without having the conversation turn into the usual NSB trash talk fest. Its what is fun to me.

[Sun_Tzu]

Hard to call really. Joe could slap him silly all night or Golovkin could bounce Joe off the canvas all night. It would have been fun to watch.

[One Of A Kind]

Calzaghe with one sided UD IMHO. His shots actually carried far more power than he gets credit for. That in combination with his size would wear GGG out by the middle rounds.

[GodOfBoxing]

Calzaghe ALWAYS FOUND WAY TO WIN. We can't know. JC the better established. At first I look at this question and think to myself Calzaghe way way better established legend. Gennady yet has proving to do. HAS NOT fought the live time line threats as JC threats were "perceived". IMO

[robertzimmerman]

Huge ggg fan but I can't pick any fighter at 168 against Joe calzaghe. he beat Roy Jones, Hopkins, eubank,kessler, and lacy. Joe was one of the most talented fighters I've ever seen, no one was even close to beating him

Stop with the fantasy BS.

You can't pick any fighter against Joe at 168?

Go and watch some more boxing.

There's no way Joe would have beaten Roy in his prime. Forget the fight in 2008, which was 4 years after Glen Johnson had bullied him and knocked him cold. Roy was on another level in his prime.

Eubank? Eubank had 11 days notice to hit a weight he hadn't hit in 2 years, and he had no southpaw sparring, and he couldn't do his roadwork due to having bad knees that he he had to have infections in before the fight. Yes, he still had a lot left in the tank. Yes, he was motivated. But he was clearly faded. He was never the same after Watson, and he'd lost twice to Collins. Whilst it was a great win for Joe personally, it wasn't a great win in the boxing world.

No one was even close to beating him? I guess you must have missed his fights with Reid and Bernard.

Back on topic, I'd have to favour Joe over GG at 168. We haven't even seen GG at 168 yet. We don't know if he carries his power up. Joe was bigger. He had a walking around weight of 190 plus pounds. He also has a bigger reach and a huge advantage in speed. He's also obviously a southpaw, and he had a great stamina and work rate. So I think he'd have won a UD.

[robertzimmerman]

Joe Calzaghe is much better than Andre Ward this would be a tough one for GGG but I think he could beat him it's a shame we never got that one Joe schooled both Hopkins and Roy Jones Jr he clearly is levels above the best the Yanks had I just wish my boy Joe got to school that fat bum Toney as well.

I just wish you'd stop posting ****.

You're clearly trolling.

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Calzaghe slaps the *hit out of him on the way to a decision.

[robertzimmerman]

i had him beating hopkins pretty comfortably, didnt watch the reid fight but heard calzaghe didnt look his best although was a clear winner. nah, calzaghe schooled jones, jones was old but so was calzaghe. Wuld have been closer in primes, but calzaghe was too smart for him. Two all time greats but calzaghe was just that bit better.

Once again, in 2004, Glen Johnson bullied Roy for 9 rounds and then knocked him cold.

Go and find me one person who thinks Glen Johnson would have beaten Roy at his peak.


Joe Calzaghe wrote in his autobiography:

"I never rated Tarver. He only beat Roy Jones because he was shot. And Johnson did the same"

"A fight with me and Roy would now be pointless"

That was published in 2007, a year before they fought.


Going into their 2008 fight, Roy was touching 40, and he was 3-3 in his previous 6, and he hadn't had a top level win for exactly 5 years.

Although Joe was 36, he was still an elite fighter.

Age and ring age are 2 very different things.

Joe beating Roy easily in 2008, has no bearing whatsoever when predicting the outcome of an earlier fight.


If you have some spare time, go and watch Roy when he was prime from 1993-2003.

He was on another level to Joe.

He was faster, he had more variation, better footwork, better reflexes, he was more accurate, he had better timing, and he was more powerful.

Joe was a great fighter in his own right, but he was always relatively easy to hit, especially with right hands. A guy who struggled with Reid and who was dropped by the likes of Salem and Mitchell while prime, wasn't good enough to have beaten Roy when he was in his mid 20's.


Too smart for him? Please!


He was just that bit better? Please!


You have never seen full fights of Roy when he was in his prime. I know for a fact that you haven't.

You're a big fan of Joe's, but who knows nothing about the career of Roy Jones.

Go and educate on the matter.

Finally, Joe wouldn't have gone anywhere near Roy when he was in his prime.