GGG's competition - how good is it?

[pesticid]

Rosado - who hasn't beat Rosado?
Rubio - took a dive, beaten before by Pavlik
Macklin - I think he got knocked out by Sergio
Lemieux - stopped by Rubio
Geale - little Cotto stopped him worse
Brook - a welterweight
Martin Murray - hasn't beat anybody
Curtis Stevens - who doesn't beat Stevens
Nobuhira Ishida - LOL
Proksa - Please!
Shop Worn Kassim Ouma who still landed and hurt GGG the worst

This is the resume of GGG?

[Triple Genius]

Good thing he's beaten all of them

[Redd Foxx]

It's an uninspiring resume, I really hope he starts fighting better competition and cuts it out with nonsense like welters. If the better comp at 160 won't fight you, don't drag up welters and jr middles, go find a super middle to beat.

[pesticid]

Kassim Ouma landing punches on GGG in triple digits. This is a very shot former 154 pounder pushing GGG's **** in.

[Tony Trick-Pony]

Rosado - who hasn't beat Rosado?
Rubio - took a dive, beaten before by Pavlik
Macklin - I think he got knocked out by Sergio
Lemieux - stopped by Rubio
Geale - little Cotto stopped him worse
Brook - a welterweight
Martin Murray - hasn't beat anybody
Curtis Stevens - who doesn't beat Stevens
Nobuhira Ishida - LOL
Proksa - Please!
Shop Worn Kassim Ouma who still landed and hurt GGG the worst

This is the resume of GGG?

Well, you do have to consider that he's not just beaten them. He's barely lost a round in the whole lot of them. These guys aren't all journeyman. They were the best the division had to offer outside of Martinez, Cotto, Canelo, Quillin, Jacobs and Saunders who have all not been so fired up about fighting him or have flat out ducked him. You have to work with what you have. And as many have claimed that GGG has two good years left max, how can one maximize that time?

Well, you can go to super middleweight where there are champions Sturm, Jack, Degale and Ramirez. Jack or Degale would make fine opponents. Ramirez is not ready and Sturm is done. So let's say GGG beats Degale and Jack, although there may not be that much interest in fighting both once once of them beats the other. So 168 isn't red hot.

175 on the other hand is very hot. Kovalev, Ward, Stevenson, Beterbiev and a huge list of others. Of course, that's a 15 pound leap which can be tricky. GGG hits like a beast but will his shots hurt the 175 pounders as much? It's doubtful. He's surely more likely to lose which is fine. No risk. No reward. And he'd gain a lot of respect if he did. A ton of respect actually. Even a lot of his haters would at least shut up if not turn perhaps. There can be no doubt.

His other option is to stay at 160. Now, he can wait out those who avoid. he can actually get Canelo next September most likely. He's working on a deal with Jacobs. Saunders is a possibility in the next two years, as is Eubank. Also at 154, you have the Charlo twins, Andrade and Lara. All of these fights can be billed big and would increase his legacy by leaps and bounds. And he'd be fighting at his most effective fighting weight.

So really, I thin we have the dangerous 175 road where he would get respect but risk plenty against the bigger boys and I honestly don't see him beating them all or he can stay at 160 where guys will most likely come to him in the next two years. Heck if he gets the WBO and the RING, opponents will HAVE to come to him if they want any of the belts out there Let's say he gets 3 good years and he's got even more time to cancel out their waiting out period.

For me, I think 160 is the answer. Not the answer most fans want which is NOW. However, it's the answer he and his camp will most likely go with. Besides would you rather be known as a guy who fought his whole career at 160 and cleaned it out or the dude who won titles at 160 and then did a little at 175?

[Kigali]

Rosado - who hasn't beat Rosado?
Rubio - took a dive, beaten before by Pavlik
Macklin - I think he got knocked out by Sergio
Lemieux - stopped by Rubio
Geale - little Cotto stopped him worse
Brook - a welterweight
Martin Murray - hasn't beat anybody
Curtis Stevens - who doesn't beat Stevens
Nobuhira Ishida - LOL
Proksa - Please!
Shop Worn Kassim Ouma who still landed and hurt GGG the worst

This is the resume of GGG?

His comp is excellent.....for a 24 y/o...not a 34 y/o 10 year pro.

[Kagami Taiga]

He has the worse resume on the current p4p list I'd say.

[pesticid]

Well, you do have to consider that he's not just beaten them. He's barely lost a round in the whole lot of them. These guys aren't all journeyman. They were the best the division had to offer outside of Martinez, Cotto, Canelo, Quillin, Jacobs and Saunders who have all not been so fired up about fighting him or have flat out ducked him. You have to work with what you have. And as many have claimed that GGG has two good years left max, how can one maximize that time?

Well, you can go to super middleweight where there are champions Sturm, Jack, Degale and Ramirez. Jack or Degale would make fine opponents. Ramirez is not ready and Sturm is done. So let's say GGG beats Degale and Jack, although there may not be that much interest in fighting both once once of them beats the other. So 168 isn't red hot.

175 on the other hand is very hot. Kovalev, Ward, Stevenson, Beterbiev and a huge list of others. Of course, that's a 15 pound leap which can be tricky. GGG hits like a beast but will his shots hurt the 175 pounders as much? It's doubtful. He's surely more likely to lose which is fine. No risk. No reward. And he'd gain a lot of respect if he did. A ton of respect actually. Even a lot of his haters would at least shut up if not turn perhaps. There can be no doubt.

His other option is to stay at 160. Now, he can wait out those who avoid. he can actually get Canelo next September most likely. He's working on a deal with Jacobs. Saunders is a possibility in the next two years, as is Eubank. Also at 154, you have the Charlo twins, Andrade and Lara. All of these fights can be billed big and would increase his legacy by leaps and bounds. And he'd be fighting at his most effective fighting weight.

So really, I thin we have the dangerous 175 road where he would get respect but risk plenty against the bigger boys and I honestly don't see him beating them all or he can stay at 160 where guys will most likely come to him in the next two years. Heck if he gets the WBO and the RING, opponents will HAVE to come to him if they want any of the belts out there Let's say he gets 3 good years and he's got even more time to cancel out their waiting out period.

For me, I think 160 is the answer. Not the answer most fans want which is NOW. However, it's the answer he and his camp will most likely go with. Besides would you rather be known as a guy who fought his whole career at 160 and cleaned it out or the dude who won titles at 160 and then did a little at 175?

Yep bringing welterweights to middleweight is about right. No wonder he can take flush shots.

[pesticid]

He has the worse resume on the current p4p list I'd say.

I didn't know you could make the P4P with such a resume and not one notable win.

[Redd Foxx]

Well, you do have to consider that he's not just beaten them. He's barely lost a round in the whole lot of them.

That's why I'm not really too critical of GGG's talents. I think he's very talented. That resume is foul though and when he's had the opportunity to go after legacy building competition, he did things like fighting a welterweight. That's not even trying.

Still, I think he's like Kovalev in that his ceiling is much higher than his resume implies (that statement will no longer apply to Kovalev in a few weeks through).