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  • #51
    The answer is in post#43, if you can't read then that's not my fault numbskull

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    • #52
      Originally posted by Deeznuts View Post
      So you did a google search and couldn't find any boxers that do it so now you providing mma links lol
      They are not publicly as vocal and I dont care to spend much time proving what I already know to a empty head kid I just gave you the first couple of 1000s of hits , but if you care to go learn for your own benefit any old school gym , trainer or fighter will tell you all about it , some of you guys have tunnel vision that can see out to about 3 inches in front of your face and the common sense of dog , question what you believe before you readily engrave it in stone , you might be surprised just how much utter BS you believe in .

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      • #53
        Originally posted by Shape up View Post
        The answer is in post#43, if you can't read then that's not my fault numbskull
        Did you answer my question? How the **** did Lance Armstrong's urine samples fail when he was manipulating his blood levels if that would guarantee that he would pass the urine tests?

        I'll wait...

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        • #54
          Check out what micro dosing is, you might learn something, doesn't really affect your passport, also, EPO only really has a window of 24-36 hours of testing in those circumstances

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          • #55
            Originally posted by Shape up View Post
            Check out what micro dosing is, you might learn something, doesn't really affect your passport, also, EPO only really has a window of 24-36 hours of testing in those circumstances
            What is your point? You are trying to say that Armstrong would pass urine tests because he manipulated his blood. That is not true. There was no EPO test when he was competing. When they tested his urine later, they failed the EPO test. You are wrong. Plain and simple and it's stupid to argue about whether changing your blood levels would allow you to pass a urine test.

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            • #56
              The evidence presented in the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency's 202-page report on Lance Armstrong's alleged years of doping, scheming, pushing and evading is, according to its authors, "beyond strong." Even so, the case against Armstrong doesn't involve any definitive failed drug tests, a fact that the former seven-time Tour de France winner has long used to shield his claims to innocence.

              So if Armstrong is the inveterate doper the USADA claims he is, how did he manage to avoid an unambiguous positive test during more than a decade of pro cycling?

              Below is a rundown of the doping practices the USADA accuses Armstrong of using, and an explanation of how, in each case, he might have covered his tracks for so long. [How Did Armstrong Get Busted?]

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              Erythropoietin (EPO): A synthetic version of this naturally occurring hormone is used by cheating athletes to boost red blood cell counts, a change that temporarily supercharges endurance by increasing muscles' oxygen-carrying capacity. Before 2000, no test existed to distinguish the synthetic version of the hormone from its natural counterpart, so as long as athletes took doses that would keep their hematocrit (a measure of the volume percentage of blood made up of red blood cells) in a plausible range (below 50 percent), they could use this drug with impunity. And the report alleges that Armstrong's pre-2000 team did just that, fueling its 1999 Tour de France win.

              But the USADA also claims that Armstrong's abuse of EPO didn't stop after the introduction of a urine test capable of detecting the drug in 2000; it merely took a more covert form. Conspiring doctors, the report alleges, instructed Armstrong and his teammates to inject EPO intravenously (as opposed to subcutaneously, or into an inner layer of skin) and at night, when surprise tests were unlikely. These measures would make it possible for low doses of synthetic EPO to be cleared from a rider's system by the time he woke.

              In situations where EPO tests on recently dosed athletes were unavoidable, team doctors also could have injected saline, or salt water, to dilute a rider's blood and quickly drive down hematocrit. This kind of obfuscating saline injection was a common practice for Armstrong and his team, according to the USADA report.---------------------------- you are a DICKHEAD

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              • #57
                That's usada saying that numbskull, any other questions you want answered dickhead, but good boy floyd wouldn't do that would he, as I said earlier, 750ml of saline is a HUGE amount, you can apologise any time now
                Last edited by Shape up; 10-09-2016, 12:22 AM. Reason: Add more

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by Shape up View Post
                  The evidence presented in the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency's 202-page report on Lance Armstrong's alleged years of doping, scheming, pushing and evading is, according to its authors, "beyond strong." Even so, the case against Armstrong doesn't involve any definitive failed drug tests, a fact that the former seven-time Tour de France winner has long used to shield his claims to innocence.

                  So if Armstrong is the inveterate doper the USADA claims he is, how did he manage to avoid an unambiguous positive test during more than a decade of pro cycling?

                  Below is a rundown of the doping practices the USADA accuses Armstrong of using, and an explanation of how, in each case, he might have covered his tracks for so long. [How Did Armstrong Get Busted?]

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                  Erythropoietin (EPO): A synthetic version of this naturally occurring hormone is used by cheating athletes to boost red blood cell counts, a change that temporarily supercharges endurance by increasing muscles' oxygen-carrying capacity. Before 2000, no test existed to distinguish the synthetic version of the hormone from its natural counterpart, so as long as athletes took doses that would keep their hematocrit (a measure of the volume percentage of blood made up of red blood cells) in a plausible range (below 50 percent), they could use this drug with impunity. And the report alleges that Armstrong's pre-2000 team did just that, fueling its 1999 Tour de France win.

                  But the USADA also claims that Armstrong's abuse of EPO didn't stop after the introduction of a urine test capable of detecting the drug in 2000; it merely took a more covert form. Conspiring doctors, the report alleges, instructed Armstrong and his teammates to inject EPO intravenously (as opposed to subcutaneously, or into an inner layer of skin) and at night, when surprise tests were unlikely. These measures would make it possible for low doses of synthetic EPO to be cleared from a rider's system by the time he woke.

                  In situations where EPO tests on recently dosed athletes were unavoidable, team doctors also could have injected saline, or salt water, to dilute a rider's blood and quickly drive down hematocrit. This kind of obfuscating saline injection was a common practice for Armstrong and his team, according to the USADA report.---------------------------- you are a DICKHEAD

                  Why are you still embarrassing yourself? Haven't I murdered you enough? Your dead corpse should ****ing give up.

                  You can't win. You have the intelligence of a bag of dust.

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                  • #59
                    Didn't you just say there was no EPO test when Armstrong was competing, WRONG, didn't you say he tested positive when the test became available, WRONG, didn't he have IV saline to pass urine tests, CORRECT, you must get sick of looking like such a moron CONSTANTLY

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by Shape up View Post
                      Didn't you just say there was no EPO test when Armstrong was competing, WRONG, didn't you say he tested positive when the test became available, WRONG, didn't he have IV saline to pass urine tests, CORRECT, you must get sick of looking like such a moron CONSTANTLY
                      Ahemmmm....


                      L’Equipe alleges Armstrong samples show EPO use in 99 Tour


                      http://velonews.competitor.com/2005/...n-99-tour_8740


                      Now that you've been owned again...are you ready to go away?

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