Has GGG Sustained Any Damage Professionally?

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  • Tony Trick-Pony
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    #31
    Originally posted by HeadShots
    i actually don't think the defensive masters necessarily age well.

    Pernel Whitaker and Mayweather didn't age that well imo. Whitaker is punch drunk as hell for the amount of dancing he did and the supposed great defense he has.

    Mayweather deteriorated rapidly as well BUT of course he needs the hometown athletic commission to let him juice to the gills to cling a truly war torn Pacquiao to a close hometown decision.
    For me, Duran is the true freak. He fought for 35 years and fought aggressively against the best and to this day, his speech is fine and he gets around just fine.

    The defensive types do well sometimes and sometimes they don't. I'd guess that a lot of Mayweather's significant damage stems from Maidana.

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      #32
      Originally posted by anthonydavid11
      For me, Duran is the true freak. He fought for 35 years and fought aggressively against the best and to this day, his speech is fine and he gets around just fine.

      The defensive types do well sometimes and sometimes they don't. I'd guess that a lot of Mayweather's significant damage stems from Maidana.

      Yup him, Julio Cesar Chavez Sr and Jake Lamotta are all fine.


      Maybe it's the latino gene.





      You have fighters going punch drunk with 1 bad fight like McClellan and Meldrick Taylor

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        #33
        Originally posted by HeadShots
        Yup him, Julio Cesar Chavez Sr and Jake Lamotta are all fine.


        Maybe it's the latino gene.





        You have fighters going punch drunk with 1 bad fight like McClellan and Meldrick Taylor
        LaMotta's the one that gets me. That guy can get hit by a truck and still be fine.

        I think a CAT scan revealed that Chavez had an abnormally thick skull.

        And I believe on a separate issue, that Henry Armstrong's autopsy revealed an above average sized heart. No wonder he fought like a windmill. Haha

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          #34
          Originally posted by HeadShots
          let's compare say GGG's last fight to Ward's fight with that Cuban bum or that Edwin dude.


          GGG took some shots but it's over 5 rounds.



          Ward took heavy punishment from both of those bums over 12 rounds. I think he was more damaged over those 12 rounds than GGG is over 5 rounds.
          Ward didn't get hit that much but let's say for argument's sake that you're right and he did. It's not that much the fights, it's the sparring. So if you spar the same amounts of rounds and GGG is an aggressive fighter who supposedly fights cruiser weights in sparring it's GGG getting more damaged.

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            #35
            Originally posted by pesticid
            Ward didn't get hit that much but let's say for argument's sake that you're right and he did. It's not that much the fights, it's the sparring. So if you spar the same amounts of rounds and GGG is an aggressive fighter who supposedly fights cruiser weights in sparring it's GGG getting more damaged.

            nah it's the fights.


            See Sergio Martinez, dude was out of his prime in his mid 30's. he never sparred. all the long reigning champs spar regularly.

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              #36
              Originally posted by HeadShots
              nah it's the fights.


              See Sergio Martinez, dude was out of his prime in his mid 30's. he never sparred. all the long reigning champs spar regularly.
              You just ignored what I said and went into a completely different direction.

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                #37
                Originally posted by pesticid
                You just ignored what I said and went into a completely different direction.
                nope. same logic. i dont think you understand what that is.

                you said years are left in sparring. i gave u a recent good example of someone that didn't spar and left his prime early.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by HeadShots
                  The reality is the competition has simply stepped up the talent pool from international participation.


                  you ever why you don't see black champions fighting black champions anymore? It's because there was a delusion of greatness about these American blacks from the history of boxing. However as other nations picked up these sports. Black Americans have been filtered out of the sport steadily.


                  This has nothing to do with the lack of black boxers. It's not like they are ***ish and Italians who eventually overcame poverty and don't have to fight anymore. Black as a minority are still living in poverty. There are still black kids growing up fighting. We all see the vids. As a matter of fact there are more Black Americans now than ever before.



                  The reality is, the face of boxing has changed. Martin Murray would go back in time and knock out Tommy Hearns. He is domestic level at best today. Lemiux would break him in half.
                  You've made good points but in no way in a snowballs chances in hell should GGG and Hagler be compared!

                  Middleweight sucks donkey **** and GGG refuses to move up cuz he's a businessman like his pal Motor Mouth Sanchez!

                  You talk about the talent pool yet supermiddle weight and lightheavy has way more talent and prestige than where The Can Crushing King resorts to hide at!

                  Now you've really done it, Murray knocking out Hearns is sig worthy! Your boxing viewing privileges should be revoked!

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                  • daggum
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                    #39
                    well brook almost ktfo of him so yes. hell even monroe nearly had him out of there.

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                      #40
                      He does take some shots but never anything sustained over many rounds. Plus when you consider he basically all wins by stoppage, he hasn't got that many miles on the clock, no long 12 round tough nights or anything.

                      That said, he's approaching late 30's and nature will take it's course. I reckon he's got about 2 good years left. For a MW fighter, you would expect the decline to start about now really. That's why Canelo's team are delaying the fight. He's coming up 35 so every year will probably have some sort of decline. Canelo's team have been around boxing long enough to know that too.

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