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  • Cinci Champ
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    #251
    Originally posted by Eastcoast
    It's looking like that guy on Sherdog was bogus. He never mentioned they requested the WBA to alter the 75/25 split. Danny's done nothing to merit that anyways.

    Well if no Jacobs, maybe Golovkin could go after George Groves, seeing everyone of note is busy/not ready? Let Danny go back to fighting in front of 5,000 people in Reading, PA.
    i dont see any reason why if a purse bid happened jacobs would pull out someone is going to bid a lot of money to host that fight.

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    • j0zef
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      #252
      Originally posted by The Big Dunn
      GGG isn't "box office". I didn't say he wasn't popular. you are not summarizing my points. you are deflecting from answering the questions I asked you.

      I never posted he should get $5 mil why are you moving the goalpost?

      If there was $3 mil available for Saunders there should be same available for Jacobs. Saunders doesn't bring more. Is he as well known as Brook?

      Again, if K2 can offer Saunders $3 mil, they should be able to do same with Jacobs.

      why should jacobs take less than somone not on his level?
      That's not how logic works. Saunders can get $3m because he holds the last title that Golovkin needs. It has absolutely nothing to do with WHO holds the belt and how popular they are. If Artur Akavov magically beats Saunders, he'll be worth $3M as well.
      Being undisputed world champ brings its own intrinsic value, it's not only about short term gains.

      Danny's the challenger to the title - he's the one who needs the fight and gains something from it. That's just how the challenger/champion dynamic works, and that's why there are rules.

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        #253
        Originally posted by Cinci Champ
        why its common for bigger fights and also if its 75 to 25 team ggg have no real reason to negotiate fair when they can just wait it out and take a huge percentage anyway
        and if it does go to purse bid people would act like ggg is cheating jacobs lmao. he's cheating by following the rules! these same people love ward headbutting and clinching of course. makes perfect sense

        also jacobs hasn't negotiated fair from the begininng. turns down 3 million, says he wants 3 to 5 million hmmm yeah thats fair...how the eff is he going to get that from ggg who's not even "box office"

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        • HanzGruber
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          #254
          why are you guys even responding to daggum? He never posts seriously unless its about golovkin and slurping him off to the best of his abilities

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          • Can'tHoldMeBack
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            #255
            Originally posted by daggum
            ok well i dont know if jacobs is your fav fighter but hes stopping the fight from getting made so why are you not calling him out? pretending that ggg has unlimited money and can offer any of his opponents 5 million dollars prob isn't the fairest viewpoint. i could be wrong but i have a feeling you will twist anything into an anti-ggg rant
            No Jacobs is not my favorite fighter even if you use the two quillens argument that's 4mil me personally I would not offer Jacobs nothing higher than 3.5 which they should be able to come up with from what HBO gives them for fight ticket sales, and site fees.. my point was clearly it has to be a low offer if Jacobs is asking WBA to change split....and if he is trying get 5mil which is the case you are making nobody bidding 15mil for the fight so he clearly trying get a better offer from k2 or more money when it goes to purse

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              #256
              Originally posted by daggum
              yep those 2 fights he made a lot more and the rest he didn't. how is he cheap again? because in 2 of his fights he made a lot more than his opponents. hmmm yeah im sure we can check all the haymon fighters and find that almost all their fights they made a lot more but you won't be calling them cheap now will you? fanboys what can you do. don't even realize their hypocrisy. if ggg's cheap then everyone else in boxing is ten times cheaper. you have impossibly high standards for him and no standards for your fav fighters.
              regardless of all this jacobs should still get a pretty decent size purse regardless of ur spin. no idea what jacobs is asking for except for rumors but my guess is probably like 60/40. jacobs ggg fight is pretty big its going to be ggg most watched fight by far. i wouldnt say team ggg is cheaper then anyone else but i hope they are willing to pay jacobs a fair amount so ggg can finally start going in the right direction of making big fights.

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                #257
                Originally posted by HanzGruber
                why are you guys even responding to daggum? He never posts seriously unless its about golovkin and slurping him off to the best of his abilities
                Funny how he goes on and on about Ward clinching, holding and headbutting and then does the same with gggs nutsack

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                • Citizen Koba
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                  #258
                  Originally posted by Can'tHoldMeBack
                  That sum and plus more is absolve since they don't have the regular Canelo HBO fight on the books freed up more money
                  I can't claim to know what the HBO budget looks like or how much they've allocated to GGG.

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                  • daggum
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                    #259
                    Originally posted by hhs661
                    Funny how he goes on and on about Ward clinching, holding and headbutting and then does the same with gggs nutsack
                    man i don't headbutt it, other stuff is personal

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                    • The Big Dunn
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                      #260
                      Originally posted by daggum
                      well we don't know the uk money situation so we can't speculate on it unless you want to waste time(point of boxingscene). jacobs already turned down 3 million so not sure why you saying offer him 3 million. he said it himself the amoutn they offered he could fight 2 quillin's and make the same, they need to step up their money. step up how much? 4 mill? 5 mill? a billion? ggg would still be ducking right? we all know he comes with unlimited money even though he's not popular....i totally get that
                      I never said he was ducking. Please dude, stop whining. The problem is you compare him to much stronger a sides when he doesn't generate enough.

                      Again, K2 offered Saunders $3 mil despite GGG not being "box office". They set the market value. The only difference is how much they will lose giiving Jacobs what he wants as comoared to what they would have lost if Saunders had fought GGG,.

                      Now I know you love GGG, but Jacobs and his team are not going to be concerned with how much money K2 loses.

                      Originally posted by j0zef
                      That's not how logic works. Saunders can get $3m because he holds the last title that Golovkin needs. It has absolutely nothing to do with WHO holds the belt and how popular they are. If Artur Akavov magically beats Saunders, he'll be worth $3M as well.
                      Being undisputed world champ brings its own intrinsic value, it's not only about short term gains.

                      Danny's the challenger to the title - he's the one who needs the fight and gains something from it. That's just how the challenger/champion dynamic works, and that's why there are rules.
                      Good point in your 1st paragraph. NOW you should get why Jacobs is asking for what he is.

                      GGG wants to be undisputed world champ. while his fans already say he is, the FACT is he got the WBA belt in the boardroom not the ring. Beating Jacobs has more intrinsic value-using your words-then actual value. So Jacobs is trying to leverage that, as would any other fighter in his position.

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