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  • #51
    Originally posted by Jsmooth9876 View Post
    Yeah he did.....after becoming a household name beating former welterweight kingpins in Oscar and Tito...when GGG career is over then judge him...if Hopkins retired after those fights would he be who he is now? GGG has many years ahead of him and can move up after he accomplished his goal of unified middleweight champ...
    With his style GGG has 3-5 years as a top fighter if that


    Time to pisd or get off the pot

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    • #52
      Originally posted by Jsmooth9876 View Post
      Yeah he did.....after becoming a household name beating former welterweight kingpins in Oscar and Tito...when GGG career is over then judge him...if Hopkins retired after those fights would he be who he is now? GGG has many years ahead of him and can move up after he accomplished his goal of unified middleweight champ...
      He's a 35 year old action fighter. No he does not have years ahead.

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      • #53
        Originally posted by therealpugilist View Post
        With his style GGG has 3-5 years as a top fighter if that


        Time to pisd or get off the pot
        Well if this upcoming year goes to plan he gets Jacobs,Saunders,Canelo. Then in 2018 go 168 and maybe at the end fight whoever is left at 175... Lofty goals but once he finished his business at 160 I would hope he'd make the move for legacy

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        • #54
          Originally posted by Jsmooth9876 View Post
          Well if this upcoming year goes to plan he gets Jacobs,Saunders,Canelo. Then in 2018 go 168 and maybe at the end fight whoever is left at 175... Lofty goals but once he finished his business at 160 I would hope he'd make the move for legacy
          He's a not man enough to move up. You know that.

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          • #55
            Originally posted by therealpugilist View Post
            Hopkins is one of the greatest middleweights of all time, who actually went up and competed with the best at 175 and won titles there

            he can say whatever he wants regardless of his affiliation with Golden boy

            proof is in the pudding, he dared to be great....GGG hasnt done anything to be considered great yet...he is a good fighter for sure
            Did Bernard really dare to be great though?

            I don't think he did.

            Not in his prime.

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            • #56
              Originally posted by therealpugilist View Post
              Hopkins is one of the only fighters ever to win the lineal title at 160 and 175

              he is more than qualified to speak on the matter, especially considering his era was just as bad as GGG's is now, the difference is he had the balls to move up and fought in a decent era at 175 and could compete with and or beat some of the best


              if he didnt do this he wouldnt be remembered as great as he is now.


              Many great fighters whether they won or lost moved up from 160 to higher weights..Robinson, Hopkins, Jones, Tiger, Toney...SOME WERENT EVEN GREATS like Iran Barkley, Chris Eubank, Nigel Benn, Michael Nunn,

              the only waY ggg will be remembered as great is if he cleans out 160 like hopkins did, or he moves up and wins some big fights, the type of things he is doing now isnt enough
              Everyone's circumstances are different.

              GG is smaller than Bernard, and he's got good fights at MW before he thinks about moving up.

              It's okay saying Bernard had balls, but he was content to wait 6 years to unify at MW, and he was content to remain there 5 years after he'd beaten Tito. He also turned down a rematch with Roy during that period.

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              • #57
                Originally posted by therealpugilist View Post
                Jones wasnt 40 years old when he moved up from 160

                nor was Toney, Nunn, **** Tiger, Ray Robinson, Archie Moore, Ezzard Charles, Reggie Johnson, Mike McCallum, Hearns, LaMotta, Mickey Walker, the list goes on

                I know you think GGG is at least as good as Reggie Johnson....he won titles at 160 and 175 and will never be seen as a great fighter but he took more risks than GGG...fought toney, Jones, and other champs from 160-175.

                just say you dont expect much out of GGG and move on.....Hopkins isnt the only fighter in history to fight at 160 and move up with success you know


                get out of your feelings
                Again, it's all about circumstances and opportunities.

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra View Post
                  I see people bring up the Hopkins age and GGG age but what they fail to acknowledge is GGG doesn't have the style built for longevity in the sport. Hopkins style was a defensive style based off hit and not get hit. GGG isn't that type of fighter
                  Hopkins fights lasted nearly twice as long as GGGs. So how much punishment is he really taking when his fights don't go the distance?

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by Face Of Boxing View Post
                    Hopkins fights lasted nearly twice as long as GGGs. So how much punishment is he really taking when his fights don't go the distance?
                    Hopkins was one of the least hit boxers ever. Golovkin will be done in a year if he fights Jacobs, Canelo and Saunders.

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by therealpugilist View Post
                      Hopkins is one of the greatest middleweights of all time, who actually went up and competed with the best at 175 and won titles there

                      he can say whatever he wants regardless of his affiliation with Golden boy

                      proof is in the pudding, he dared to be great....GGG hasnt done anything to be considered great yet...he is a good fighter for sure
                      Let's not forget hopkins stayed at mw fighting **** fights for 4 years after getting name recognition for the tito win....a string of hbo appearances against lack luster opposition. Who knows what he would have done if he didn't lose his titles to taylor either...which looks pretty bad for a great to lose to the likes of taylor. There's no way ggg will have the longevity hopkins had...if he moves up it will most likely be for a few big paydays toward the end of his career.

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