Hopkins says you dont become great off of sympathy, is GGG great middleweight?

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  • Real King Kong
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    #101
    Originally posted by don larryx
    Moving up in weight and winning the WBC,WBA,IBF,RING(2 TIMES) AND LINEAL TITLE is impressive at any age man...and none of those were handed to him, he won ALL int he ring
    Still...take out the losses and what names on his resume are you really left with at 175? Washed up jones? Unproven cloud who did nothing afterwards? Pascal...who everyone says is overrated when it comes to kovalevs resume? Even tarver lost to glen johnson 2 fights b4 hopkins. His run at 175 isn't really any better than 160. Don't get me wrong either...I'm a big hopkins fan, and don't deny his greatness, but everything has to be taken into context. We can't criticze one mans resume and opponents without taking the same critical look at the resumes of others.

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      #102
      Originally posted by considerthis
      Still...take out the losses and what names on his resume are you really left with at 175? Washed up jones? Unproven cloud who did nothing afterwards? Pascal...who everyone says is overrated when it comes to kovalevs resume? Even tarver lost to glen johnson 2 fights b4 hopkins. His run at 175 isn't really any better than 160. Don't get me wrong either...I'm a big hopkins fan, and don't deny his greatness, but everything has to be taken into context. We can't criticze one mans resume and opponents without taking the same critical look at the resumes of others.
      Has Golovkin went to 175? No because he's scared.

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        #103
        Originally posted by robertzimmerman
        I'm questioning his statements regarding GG, when I know how he handled his own career.

        It's hypocrisy.


        Rosado and Monroe were keep busy fights that everyone has.
        Hopkins has earned it. I remember when everyone hated Hopkins. Local sports guys would even dump on him. His work at 175 earned him respect.

        But Golovkin is 34 and nothing, not one good opponen

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          #104
          So funny to read, like him or hate him, one thing is for sure, he is the most talked about current fighter in the world, no one can argue with that,

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            #105
            Originally posted by CaneloMaidana
            Has Golovkin went to 175? No because he's scared.
            Why would he even consider going to LHW at this point, you absolute simpleton?

            Bernard probably wouldn't have gone anywhere near LHW himself had he been GG's size.

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              #106
              Originally posted by CaneloMaidana
              Hopkins has earned it. I remember when everyone hated Hopkins. Local sports guys would even dump on him. His work at 175 earned him respect.

              But Golovkin is 34 and nothing, not one good opponen
              Bernard is still a hypocrite, and he hadn't done much at GG's current age.

              Why can't you appreciate that everyone's circumstances are different?

              Let's see how things play out and then you can rank him once he's retired.

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                #107
                He is already a great middleweight, the most exciting fighter in boxing, the most talked about fighter in boxing, worldwide the most popular fighter, the most avoided fighter, about to break BHops record (That among the reason that BHop is protecting Canelo from big bad GGG is why BHop is crying like a biatch about GGG) and will be unified champion with all Major belts, at least if Saunders grows some balls.

                BHop much bigger, taller than GGG did never leave middleweight, he only moved up in weight at age 40, after he lost to Jermain Taylor twice. BHop is a fraud basically, he was forced to move up because he got beat badly by Taylor and had no titles and said he couldnt make 160 anymore, thats why he lost lol.

                BHop does everything to protect his fake lineal middleweight champ Canelita.

                Anyway the dummygraphic will never give GGG a fair shake, mostly because they are uneducated, biased and ignorant when it comes to fighters outside of the US.

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                  #108
                  Originally posted by robertzimmerman
                  Why would he even consider going to LHW at this point, you absolute simpleton?

                  Bernard probably wouldn't have gone anywhere near LHW himself had he been GG's size.
                  Because that's what real fighters do. They don't hide like Golovkin you coward.

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                  • CaneloMaidana
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                    #109
                    Originally posted by Jubei
                    He is already a great middleweight, the most exciting fighter in boxing, the most talked about fighter in boxing, worldwide the most popular fighter, the most avoided fighter, about to break BHops record (That among the reason that BHop is protecting Canelo from big bad GGG is why BHop is crying like a biatch about GGG) and will be unified champion with all Major belts, at least if Saunders grows some balls.

                    BHop much bigger, taller than GGG did never leave middleweight, he only moved up in weight at age 40, after he lost to Jermain Taylor twice. BHop is a fraud basically, he was forced to move up because he got beat badly by Taylor and had no titles and said he couldnt make 160 anymore, thats why he lost lol.

                    BHop does everything to protect his fake lineal middleweight champ Canelita.

                    Anyway the dummygraphic will never give GGG a fair shake, mostly because they are uneducated, biased and ignorant when it comes to fighters outside of the US.
                    Scared little coward, only a girl stays at 160.

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                    • CaneloMaidana
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                      #110
                      Originally posted by robertzimmerman
                      Bernard is still a hypocrite, and he hadn't done much at GG's current age.

                      Why can't you appreciate that everyone's circumstances are different?

                      Let's see how things play out and then you can rank him once he's retired.
                      I don't like this because it seems like Golovkin is protected because he's white. Golovkin cherry picks Alcine, Kofi, Vanes and Angulo scraps and people like you pretend it's impressive. Beating Geale after he lost to Barker means nothing.

                      You want to crown this fraud but he can't even do what Paulie and Zab did.

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