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  • Canelo and GGG
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    #31
    Originally posted by Dean_Razorback
    didn't you start this same thread before??
    not one time bro not one

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    • dirty fingers
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      #32
      List of middleweights who moved down to avoid Golovkin

      1. Canelo

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      • boliodogs
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        #33
        I know of 8 great middleweights who never moved up in weight. Hagler, Zale, Monzon, Fullmer, Pender, Graziano, Giardello and Cerdan never moved up in weight. So according to you these hall of fame middleweight champions were all cowards just like GGG.

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        • boliodogs
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          #34
          Originally posted by CaneloMaidana
          A lie that cowards who defend sissy Golovkin like to tell is middleweights don't move up.

          Michael Nunn
          Roy Jones Jr
          Benard Hopkins
          James Toney
          Sugar Ray Robinson
          Thomas Hearns
          Kelly Pavlik
          Body Snatcher
          Sugar Ray Leonard
          Arthur Abraham
          Iran Barkley
          **** Tiger
          Tiger Flowers
          Bob Fitzsimmon
          Mickey Walker
          Greb
          Jermaine Taylor
          Gerald Mclellan
          Nigel Benn
          Chris Eubank
          Archie Moore
          Sam Langford
          Stanley Ketchel
          Tito Trinidad
          Bobo Olson




          You see Golovkin is simply a fraud, scared to be a man.
          Originally posted by Chollo Vista
          There's a reason why Hagler isn't hated for not moving up. Hagler fought Duran, SRL. Hearns, Mugabi, Hamsho, Scypion, Minter and Antuofermo.

          In boxing, when you can't get the fighs you want, you move up. Why do you think Sergio Martinez moved up to 160?

          GGG gets so much slack because instead of moving up, he and his team would rather complain about not being able to find fights; despite turning down several big name fights.

          This is why people are so frustrated with GGG and were never like that with Hagler. Hagler fought his ATG's. Who's GGG's ATG's? Monroe, Geale, Ouma, Rubio and Brook.
          It's interesting that you bring up Martinez since he is one of the guys who kept GGG from getting the fights he wanted by refusing to fight GGG when GGG was his number 1 challenger. There is no better fights for GGG at 168 than there is for him at 160. That's just your excuse to trash a fine fighting champion. Saunders and Eubank would be good money fights if they would man up and fight. Jacobs will be fighting him soon no doubt and that's a great fight so quit your b*tching.

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          • GMAN SUPREME
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            #35
            Originally posted by boliodogs
            I know of 8 great middleweights who never moved up in weight. Hagler, Zale, Monzon, Fullmer, Pender, Graziano, Giardello and Cerdan never moved up in weight. So according to you these hall of fame middleweight champions were all cowards just like GGG.
            LOL that moron keeps getting his ass kicked in his own thread. he ran away now that he's been embarrassed.

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            • Raonic
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              #36
              Originally posted by Canelo and GGG
              if GGG dont move up in 1,5year he won't do it at all.
              Of course he will/would. He's already shown the willingness to move up on multiple occasions. He just doesn't want a permanent move up there because it affects his ability to get big names around 160 division.

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                #37
                Originally posted by Raonic
                Of course he will/would. He's already shown the willingness to move up on multiple occasions. He just doesn't want a permanent move up there because it affects his ability to get big names around 160 division.
                I mean if he will wait 1,5 for Canelo he will be 37 ,moveing in weight class at 37 is not so good idea,and GGG is not even big MW .

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                • Mr.MojoRisin'
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                  #38
                  You can't really compare GGG to the old school middleweights. For most of boxing history there was no super middleweight division and light heavyweight was a 15 lb jump full of guys who were "tweeners" that fought at lhw and hw. So prior to Sonny Listons takeover if a middleweight moved up they would be fighting trimmed up heavyweights. The middleweights were already small enough as it is. They would have been dwarfed at lhw.

                  In Hagler's case there was a super middleweight division but it definitley wasn't worth moving up to. There were a lot of killers at light heavyweight in the 70s/80s and that would have been a bad move for Hagler when he could have made plenty of money fighting future atg fighters at middleweight such as Hearns, Duran, and Leonard.

                  GGG is in a weak mw era and he is easily better than the smw division. Light heavy idk about I think he would have trouble there but at smw he could do real well. Some of the guys he fought already moved up to.

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                  • Eff Pandas
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Chollo Vista
                    There's a reason why Hagler isn't hated for not moving up. Hagler fought Duran, SRL. Hearns, Mugabi, Hamsho, Scypion, Minter and Antuofermo.
                    This is a fair statement to make.

                    In boxing, when you can't get the fights you want, you move up.
                    I don't see this has how things always work or should work.

                    And lets not forgot BHop had a bs run at MW all through the 90's more or less & easily could have moved up to 168 to fight Nigel Benn, Gerald McClellan, Michael Nunn, Frankie Liles, James Toney &/or Iran Barkley in epic fights, but instead held his cards cuz the money was at 160 & he capitalized in on it in the 00's when he got into the MW tournament with Trinidad & finally Oscar a lil further down the line. There is far less for GGG at 168 for GGG than there was for BHop. And then BHop moved up at age 41.

                    GGG gets so much slack because instead of moving up, he and his team would rather complain about not being able to find fights; despite turning down several big name fights.
                    I don't see them complaining. I see them stating facts. And lol at "several big name fights" GGG & his team have turned down. Quit making up dumb ****. The only cat there is any argument for GGG avoiding is Ward & with the amateur hour promoter Ward is signed with I have serious doubts that that offer was very serious or made in a way to suggest seriousness as GGG had a fight that was virtually made while the hockey guy who runs Roc Nation was spellchecking his email to GGG & K2.

                    This is why people are so frustrated with GGG and were never like that with Hagler. Hagler fought his ATG's. Who's GGG's ATG's? Monroe, Geale, Ouma, Rubio and Brook.
                    There is no debate GGG's resume leaves a lot to be desired. The problem is guys, guys' managers & guys' promoters are pissing on themselves to avoid being another guy on GGG's resume hence his resume is what it is. You can't give GGG points for all the nervous faces trying to not make eye contact with him, but then again you can't put blinders on & act like this isn't happening either so its a weird lil catch 22 situation.

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                    • Larry the boss
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by OnePunch
                      McLellan never moved up. Must have been a coward......
                      well he only got to fight for 6 and a half years

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