List of middleweights who moved up
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I know of 8 great middleweights who never moved up in weight. Hagler, Zale, Monzon, Fullmer, Pender, Graziano, Giardello and Cerdan never moved up in weight. So according to you these hall of fame middleweight champions were all cowards just like GGG.Comment
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A lie that cowards who defend sissy Golovkin like to tell is middleweights don't move up.
Michael Nunn
Roy Jones Jr
Benard Hopkins
James Toney
Sugar Ray Robinson
Thomas Hearns
Kelly Pavlik
Body Snatcher
Sugar Ray Leonard
Arthur Abraham
Iran Barkley
**** Tiger
Tiger Flowers
Bob Fitzsimmon
Mickey Walker
Greb
Jermaine Taylor
Gerald Mclellan
Nigel Benn
Chris Eubank
Archie Moore
Sam Langford
Stanley Ketchel
Tito Trinidad
Bobo Olson
You see Golovkin is simply a fraud, scared to be a man.It's interesting that you bring up Martinez since he is one of the guys who kept GGG from getting the fights he wanted by refusing to fight GGG when GGG was his number 1 challenger. There is no better fights for GGG at 168 than there is for him at 160. That's just your excuse to trash a fine fighting champion. Saunders and Eubank would be good money fights if they would man up and fight. Jacobs will be fighting him soon no doubt and that's a great fight so quit your b*tching.There's a reason why Hagler isn't hated for not moving up. Hagler fought Duran, SRL. Hearns, Mugabi, Hamsho, Scypion, Minter and Antuofermo.
In boxing, when you can't get the fighs you want, you move up. Why do you think Sergio Martinez moved up to 160?
GGG gets so much slack because instead of moving up, he and his team would rather complain about not being able to find fights; despite turning down several big name fights.
This is why people are so frustrated with GGG and were never like that with Hagler. Hagler fought his ATG's. Who's GGG's ATG's? Monroe, Geale, Ouma, Rubio and Brook.Comment
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LOL that moron keeps getting his ass kicked in his own thread. he ran away now that he's been embarrassed.Comment
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I mean if he will wait 1,5 for Canelo he will be 37 ,moveing in weight class at 37 is not so good idea,and GGG is not even big MW .Comment
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You can't really compare GGG to the old school middleweights. For most of boxing history there was no super middleweight division and light heavyweight was a 15 lb jump full of guys who were "tweeners" that fought at lhw and hw. So prior to Sonny Listons takeover if a middleweight moved up they would be fighting trimmed up heavyweights. The middleweights were already small enough as it is. They would have been dwarfed at lhw.
In Hagler's case there was a super middleweight division but it definitley wasn't worth moving up to. There were a lot of killers at light heavyweight in the 70s/80s and that would have been a bad move for Hagler when he could have made plenty of money fighting future atg fighters at middleweight such as Hearns, Duran, and Leonard.
GGG is in a weak mw era and he is easily better than the smw division. Light heavy idk about I think he would have trouble there but at smw he could do real well. Some of the guys he fought already moved up to.Comment
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This is a fair statement to make.
I don't see this has how things always work or should work.In boxing, when you can't get the fights you want, you move up.
And lets not forgot BHop had a bs run at MW all through the 90's more or less & easily could have moved up to 168 to fight Nigel Benn, Gerald McClellan, Michael Nunn, Frankie Liles, James Toney &/or Iran Barkley in epic fights, but instead held his cards cuz the money was at 160 & he capitalized in on it in the 00's when he got into the MW tournament with Trinidad & finally Oscar a lil further down the line. There is far less for GGG at 168 for GGG than there was for BHop. And then BHop moved up at age 41.
I don't see them complaining. I see them stating facts. And lol at "several big name fights" GGG & his team have turned down. Quit making up dumb ****. The only cat there is any argument for GGG avoiding is Ward & with the amateur hour promoter Ward is signed with I have serious doubts that that offer was very serious or made in a way to suggest seriousness as GGG had a fight that was virtually made while the hockey guy who runs Roc Nation was spellchecking his email to GGG & K2.GGG gets so much slack because instead of moving up, he and his team would rather complain about not being able to find fights; despite turning down several big name fights.
There is no debate GGG's resume leaves a lot to be desired. The problem is guys, guys' managers & guys' promoters are pissing on themselves to avoid being another guy on GGG's resume hence his resume is what it is. You can't give GGG points for all the nervous faces trying to not make eye contact with him, but then again you can't put blinders on & act like this isn't happening either so its a weird lil catch 22 situation.This is why people are so frustrated with GGG and were never like that with Hagler. Hagler fought his ATG's. Who's GGG's ATG's? Monroe, Geale, Ouma, Rubio and Brook.Comment
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