Juan Manuel Marquez vs. Prince Naseem Hamed

[W1LL]

Naz by knockout.

[KeyboardWarrior]

He was mandatory when? 99/2000? Coming off a loss? Cmon man be real.

Oh and watch a HBO broadcast for Naz v Augie I think it was, where they put forward a list of possible challengers to Naz who all turned down the fights. Guess what one of those names was? Yep, Marquez. The only one of those names that finally decided to step in the ring was MAB.

JMM didn't want it and he has done that with several other fighters, famously with not wanting to rematch Pacquiao and avoiding Khan.

You people forget Naz was the premier FW of his gen and many top names didn't wanted that kind of business. Even Morales was reluctant.

Edit: Marquez actively turned down the fight after "chasing" it for so long. Heck, JMM and Tapia turned down career high, million dollar plus paydays.

I recall the Augie Sanchez broadcast. JMM was Naz mandatory for close to 2 years and the Naz fight was only offered to JMM on short notice. WBO liked the Naz sanctioning fees and didn't force that mando. Like you said Naz was the premier FW, JMM was on a 2 fight winning streak after his 2nd loss and all HBO could do was point out the fact that these guys turned down Naz.

[soul_survivor]

I recall the Augie Sanchez broadcast. JMM was Naz mandatory for close to 2 years and the Naz fight was only offered to JMM on short notice. WBO liked the Naz sanctioning fees and didn't force that mando. Like you said Naz was the premier FW, JMM was on a 2 fight winning streak after his 2nd loss and all HBO could do was point out the fact that these guys turned down Naz.

JMM turned down his largest payday. That's all.

Naz held 3 world titles, why would he be running from the mando of one of them? Heck, he should have held a 4th if it wasnt for the politicis. Naz owed nobody anything back then. He was the king, you had to prove you were worthy to get in there.

JMM claims to have chased him and then turns down the fight when it gets close? Thats some grade school bs.

[puro dinamita]

The fans picking JMM have probably never seen Hamed fight or only the Barrera fight. They pick JMM because they don't know shit about Hamed. Prime Hamed would have beat the shit out of all those Mexicans and Pacquiao too.

hamed was a **** fighter lol that kid fought washed up good fighters and nobodies barrera taught his ass a lesson jmm would of whipped that boy

[KeyboardWarrior]

JMM turned down his largest payday. That's all.

Naz held 3 world titles, why would he be running from the mando of one of them? Heck, he should have held a 4th if it wasnt for the politicis. Naz owed nobody anything back then. He was the king, you had to prove you were worthy to get in there.

JMM claims to have chased him and then turns down the fight when it gets close? Thats some grade school bs.

Naz was clearly on the decline by the time of the Augie Sanchez fight. The fight was offered to both Tapia and JMM on short notice, and they would have been ****** to accept in retrospect.

And nobody is saying JMM is a smart businessman when he was younger, this was the same JMM to fight Chris John for peanuts only to not get the decision.

[Ray*]

All i know was the fight was offered to JMM and he didn't go for it.

[soul_survivor]

Naz was clearly on the decline by the time of the Augie Sanchez fight. The fight was offered to both Tapia and JMM on short notice, and they would have been ****** to accept in retrospect.

And nobody is saying JMM is a smart businessman when he was younger, this was the same JMM to fight Chris John for peanuts only to not get the decision.

stop distracting. SHort notice? The guy was getting a career high pay day, claims he is chasing THE man and then turns it down? Vitali fought Lewis on short notice, Manny fought Ledwaba. When you are trying to create a legacy and make a name for yourself, you don't do that.

JMM has always had this yellow streak. He turned down cos "he's too young" and then turned down fighting Pacquiao, although that same man gave him his 4 biggest paydays.

Anyway, bottom line is this, you were in the camp that said Naz turned down the fight, now you know JMM was the one who turned it down. If you can prove it otherwise, I'm all ears.

[soul_survivor]

All i know was the fight was offered to JMM and he didn't go for it.

lol init

The diva attitude of JMM was in stark contract to what MAB and Morales were doing at the time.

[Canelo and GGG]

From fantasy fight to ducking thread LOL

[KeyboardWarrior]

stop distracting. SHort notice? The guy was getting a career high pay day, claims he is chasing THE man and then turns it down? Vitali fought Lewis on short notice, Manny fought Ledwaba. When you are trying to create a legacy and make a name for yourself, you don't do that.

JMM has always had this yellow streak. He turned down cos "he's too young" and then turned down fighting Pacquiao, although that same man gave him his 4 biggest paydays.

Anyway, bottom line is this, you were in the camp that said Naz turned down the fight, now you know JMM was the one who turned it down. If you can prove it otherwise, I'm all ears.

Now I know? I was an avid fan back and saw the Sanchez broadcast live and have followed Naz since his broadcasts were televised.
I don't have anything to prove, if you don't think HBO was great at putting the short notice spin on these situations regarding their Exclusive Fighters then we have nothing further to discuss.

And I am by no means a JMM supporter but I was present and it was Naz that was avoiding JMM.