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  • R_Walken
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    #61
    Originally posted by Shadoww702
    Yeah but NO Fighter EVER has fought the BEST every fight! Hell GGG just smashed Brook who is a 147lber. And honestly Canelo would of done the same to Brook if he fought Canelo like he did against GGG. He thought he was more stronger than GGG and for some DUMB reason thought he could walk GGG down??? I was like ??? WTF is he on!!! He went FULL Rtard like Tim Pillow Fisted Bradley trying to head hunt Pac. And when he tried outslugging Provo.

    And another TERRIBLE RTard plan was Canelo trying to out BOX Floyd??? These are some of the worst game plans I've seen lately.

    Yeah for sure I don't expect fighters to constantly run through a gauntlet but Canelo inherited the Mexican holidays and he fought Khan & Smith. Come on that's doo doo

    And I don't think Canelo runs through Brook like GGG did I actually think that's a evenish fight. But yeah I'll agree Brook had the wrong game plan for Gennady

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      #62
      Originally posted by R_Walken
      Vargas is a 2 division champion. He's faced elite fighters his resume absolutly slaughters Smiths. He had a better resume at 21 then Smith has right now

      I swear Canelo fans are bigger h.oes then Oscar

      That's all I gotta say Peace
      Vargas ain't better than Lara, Trout, Mayweather or Cotto, hell he even wouldn't win against Khan @147.

      Now what I gotta give Manny his propos, he beat the **** out of Cotto, better than Canelo, and let it be know, that to me Manny is one of the best fighters of the last 25 years, the truth is the truth.

      but let's not act like Arum aint doing the same **** that Oscar's doin' , why Vargas instead of Crawford? u know it I know it, at this stage Crawford is gonna hurt Manny.

      Truth be told.

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        #63
        Originally posted by bigdramashow
        this is all before mayweather exposed him. They thought he was the real deal, then mayweather showed the world that alvarez is just a standard plodder. You would think his boots were made from concrete judging by the way he moves his feet, never seen anything so slow in my life. And his defence is ****ing wank, have a look at that video of him sparring ramirez, arent even clever shots or combos that hit him, just throw a punch straight at him and the ****er cant block it, ggg decapitates him and this time they cant blame it on inexperience like they did against floyd. Canelo has literally no star power and nowhere to go after getting a beating from GGG, him and his team know what happened in sparring, they dont want the whole world to witness it without the headguards on
        U know that Mayweather would expose GGG aswell, that's how great he was, but talking about other things, on Sep 2017 we'll have the best Canelo vs a 35 GGG,, I'll be happy to have a talk with you after the fight ends, Right now I'm picking GGG by not that much, but from a year on I htink we might get a surprise.

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          #64
          Originally posted by batista84
          But wait, Cotto was not tiny when he was the first one to KO Maravilla, and wasn't tiny when he KO'ed a 182lbs Geale wich I got the photo of the weight pre fight if you want to corroborate, you just use things in your own convenience but that ain't the truth.

          the truth is Canelo at 26 has a hell of a resume wether you like it or not, I had him losing against Lara, but on paper he won, like Floyd beat Corrales or Lara beat Molina end of story, a win is a win.

          Smith beats Ishe any day of the week. And let it be know that this is not defending Canelo because he didn't took the real champions at 154 but the truth is that even thou he's been protected lately he will fight GGG, and GGG is a far more dangerous fight than anyone at 154.
          Yeah he was, Cotto fought at MW a division he was too small in to go after legacy and $. Canelo invents his own weight division so he can avoid the threats at 154 &160

          Your right Canelo does have a great resume and I love his mentality and believe he'd fight Gennady right now. It's Oscar that's too scared to lose his golden goose

          but his team is a bunch of opportunists beating up on smaller fighters or that have a name but no game left or old and if all else fails they have a good solid 3-4 rounds banked from the judges.

          That's the thing everyone had him losing against Lara. You want to compare Fliyd well at least he gave Castillo a rematch to let everyone know, you think Canelos team will ever give Lara one or even considered it , No because they know. All wins aren't equal especially in a crooked sport like boxing

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            #65
            Originally posted by batista84
            U know that Mayweather would expose GGG aswell, that's how great he was, but talking about other things, on Sep 2017 we'll have the best Canelo vs a 35 GGG,, I'll be happy to have a talk with you after the fight ends, Right now I'm picking GGG by not that much, but from a year on I htink we might get a surprise.
            ggg would walk straight through mayweather, just as he did with brook. Mayweather would make him look clumsy at times but GGG would get to him eventually. I have no idea what canelo was playing at with his tactics in the mayweather fight

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              #66
              Originally posted by batista84
              U know that Mayweather would expose GGG aswell, that's how great he was, but talking about other things, on Sep 2017 we'll have the best Canelo vs a 35 GGG,, I'll be happy to have a talk with you after the fight ends, Right now I'm picking GGG by not that much, but from a year on I htink we might get a surprise.
              and thats not meaning to discredit mayweather, mayweather is best fighter of this era, but the size difference is way too much, and GGG knows how to use that size difference, he wouldnt attempt to box mayweather. think how close maidana was to beating him by swarming him, then imagine ggg doing it.

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                #67
                Originally posted by batista84
                Vargas ain't better than Lara, Trout, Mayweather or Cotto, hell he even wouldn't win against Khan @147.

                Now what I gotta give Manny his propos, he beat the **** out of Cotto, better than Canelo, and let it be know, that to me Manny is one of the best fighters of the last 25 years, the truth is the truth.

                but let's not act like Arum aint doing the same **** that Oscar's doin' , why Vargas instead of Crawford? u know it I know it, at this stage Crawford is gonna hurt Manny.

                Truth be told.
                My bad I thought you were talking about Smith not Canelo

                Yeah no doubt Canelos resume takes a big sh.it on Vargas that's not even a question.

                With Promoters , They all protect their investments but what Oscars done to Canelos career in 2016 is embarrassing.

                But with Vargas, if you listed all the fighters you'd want to see Manny fight that actually have a chance of being made Vargas is probably 3-5 which isn't that bad

                Flip it around Canelo had like 20 better options before Smith name even comes up

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                • pvj
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by bigdramashow
                  ggg would walk straight through mayweather, just as he did with brook. Mayweather would make him look clumsy at times but GGG would get to him eventually. I have no idea what canelo was playing at with his tactics in the mayweather fight
                  Apples to apples Mayweather wins. it would resemble Chavez Sr vs Sweet P....GGG being so textbook, unlike Chino, would work against triple GGG. Money would be 3 steps ahead all night.

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                  • batista84
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by R_Walken
                    My bad I thought you were talking about Smith not Canelo

                    Yeah no doubt Canelos resume takes a big sh.it on Vargas that's not even a question.

                    With Promoters , They all protect their investments but what Oscars done to Canelos career in 2016 is embarrassing.

                    But with Vargas, if you listed all the fighters you'd want to see Manny fight that actually have a chance of being made Vargas is probably 3-5 which isn't that bad

                    Flip it around Canelo had like 20 better options before Smith name even comes up
                    Gotta agree.

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by pvj
                      Apples to apples Mayweather wins. it would resemble Chavez Sr vs Sweet P....GGG being so textbook, unlike Chino, would work against triple GGG. Money would be 3 steps ahead all night.

                      Canelo's last opponent could have been better, but still, Canelo's resume is grossly overrated by the casual fans.

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