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  • #31
    I posted this in the What Happened to PBC thread, and it's relevant to the topic here:

    If Haymon wanted to take the UFC model and apply it to boxing, he forgot one thing. The UFC is an organization with it's own champions, there are no sanctioning bodies controlling the order of fighter ranks and multiple champions.

    Back when PBC first launched, there was rumor that belts were being created and each weight class would end up with a PBC champion. If that had happened, there would have been tournaments set up to crown a champ, and an actual narrative to the fighters paths.

    Doing something like that would have been revolutionary to the sport of boxing. Eliminate the 3rd wheel (the sanctioning bodies) and just create a central product for boxing. Now, this wouldn't have necessarily hurt the other networks as I would assume if the model worked out as intended, they would follow suit and HBO and Showtime would have their own roster with their own champs, similar to other MMA orgs like Bellator and Raizon. This may have increased the amount of top fights we would see as each would be competing for the gold standard of being the best.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Sp0rty Cr@ig View Post
      Conor McGregor sold 1.5 million PPV's and only earned 3 million which was a record high pay day in an MMA fight. These UFC guys dont know any better and dont know that they are getting fucked over financially. UFC reminds me of communism. All the fighters are workers who earn the company so much money yet get so little in return.
      You know in Communist Countries you get about $10 a day 1.5 million is still good money. Your comparison is that to companies here not in Communist countries. Sears makes millions but pays employee $12

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      • #33
        Weidman could headline his own card

        Mcgregor could headline his own card

        Alvarez and Cerrone Have, and could headline their own card

        Even Misha tate has

        A card like this would spread out over about 3 years in boxing. Milking networks and fans for all they have..It's sick, MMA will undoubtedly surpass boxing.

        Imagine if NFL teams "negotiated" where and how they play, it's madness and doesn't work in any situation. Boxing needs a monumental overhaul if it will survive...

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        • #34
          UFC 205 is why I know Pacquiao and Vargas will FLOP and so will Ward vs Kovalev a week after. Nobody many are ordering 3 PPV's in 1 Month so somebody will be left completely out to dry and it will be BOXING!

          UFC 205 will sell more than every HBO PPV this year COMBINED with that 1 Event. 3 PPV's in a month all back to back to back weekends is just DUMB
          Last edited by sicko; 09-28-2016, 04:24 PM.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Scipio2009 View Post
            @$60 for the PPV, if UFC 205 ends up doing 1.5m buys, you're talking about $90m in revenue off of the PPV (likely down to $50m once the cable operators get paid).

            How much money do the actual fighters end up seeing off of that $50m (without even counting the gate, sponsors, or any other revenues)? I doubt that the fighters even end up getting $15m of that.

            Will boxing ever return to a point where the fighters (the folks actually risking their necks in the ring) are only going home with 20%-30% of the take, with the promoter taking everything else?

            fat chance
            Don't know about all the fighters, but McGregor gets paid $5/ PPV buy. If the fight gets 1.5M, he's looking at taking $7.5M of that $50M on top of his $3M purse.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by jmrf4435 View Post
              Some of the most stacked cards in combat sports history. Most of these 205 fights are main event worthy.

              Will boxing be forced to adopt the singular governing body model in order to survive?
              Combat sports history lol. MMA sucks so who cares how stacked the cards are? Guys train for two years and win. It's amateur ****.

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              • #37
                Dana White, by most accounts, doesn't have as much sway when it comes to matchmaking as he would lead you to believe.

                This is one of the reasons why you hear him make claims and promises that don't get fulfilled.

                That, and he's a scumbag who doesn't have the ability to think before he speaks. Good for getting eyballs, though.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by jmrf4435 View Post
                  Some of the most stacked cards in combat sports history. Most of these 205 fights are main event worthy.

                  Will boxing be forced to adopt the singular governing body model in order to survive?
                  BOXINGSCENE

                  take this ufc **** somewhere else. the biggest star in ufc just got choked out and all the fans just pretend it didnt happen - **** that nonsense.

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                  • #39
                    ANother question..., do you think Dana white waited until pacman-vargas, kov-ward were made in order to take some business? Consumer will only buy so many PPV's in a month. I think combat sports guys and casuals will definitely choose 205....?????

                    What say you????

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                    • #40
                      "take this ufc **** somewhere else. the biggest star in ufc just got choked out and all the fans just pretend it didnt happen - **** that nonsense."

                      Mcgregor took on a challenge most boxers (aside from Brook) won't do in moving up 2 weight divisions against a guy coming off 2 of the best wins in his career(nate diaz) one of which was over Michael johson. Mcgregor barely Loses the first fight and comes back to fight the much larger guy again and MASTER CLASS HIM. It was some sugar ray leanord type legendary stuff. Mcregor will then fight alvarez and have 2 belts..

                      I honestly wish more boxers would follow the mcgregor model in boxing...

                      I'm a big fan of both sports BTW

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