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  • #11
    Originally posted by mlac View Post
    Is that true though? Danny and his ridiculous old man have been quoted as saying they don't care about legacy ' its about the money in the bank'

    So It clearly is working because they are being paid million(s) to fight nearly every time..

    Now that the PBC dough has dried up they will need to fight a spence or a thurman sooner or later though...
    That's the thing, it isn't sustainable. He can't keep putting the money they're used to in the bank without justifying the cost, which Garcia can't do without legit competition. So I don't think the formula is working at all, unless the Garcias just wanted to make quick money and disappear.

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    • #12
      I agree. Also remember the Peterson fight was at a catch-weight because Garcia would not move up all the way to 147 but couldn't make 140 anymore.

      His resume is not great but hopefully he fights Thurman or Porter next.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by bojangles1987 View Post
        That's the thing, it isn't sustainable. He can't keep putting the money they're used to in the bank without justifying the cost, which Garcia can't do without legit competition. So I don't think the formula is working at all, unless the Garcias just wanted to make quick money and disappear.
        Yeah well they obviously seem to think they can keep getting away with it, turning down Molina and Berto and trying to fight a guy even worse than Salka in sam eggington.

        It's beyond ridiculous now.

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        • #14
          Angel Garcia: Anyone Can Get it at 147, Even Mayweather

          "After we're done with Malignaggi, we'll fight whoever," stated the trainer. "We never said no to nobody. Danny faced killers, just look at the resume, even before we got big, we had Shelly Finkel as our manager, and Shelly didn't make it easy."

          http://www.boxingscene.com/angel-gar...weather--94109

          So what changed?

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          • #15
            Originally posted by .:: JSFD26 ::. View Post
            His resume is not great but you can't try to discredit the Matthysse and Khan wins. His resume was "ok." For today's standards anyway.

            Also, Herrera was not his first "loss." He received a couple of gifts before that.
            Vs who?

            I never saw the Holt fight, was a SD wasnt it?

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            • #16
              Originally posted by bojangles1987 View Post
              Is it actually working for Garcia, though? Over the past 3 years he has become one of boxing's biggest jokes, one of its most disliked names, and is barely relevant in a busy welterweight division. So the formula isn't working for him, just like it isn't working for fighters doing the same thing as him.
              Well it's working for him financially. Which is all that matters to some of these dudes.

              http://www.thecelebritiesnetworth.co...net-worth.html

              Estimated 14 million dollar net worth. No it ain't Floyd/Manny/Canelo/etc. money but I'd say that he's going to be set for a long ass time. The dude is a multi-millionaire off the fight fans...you think he really cares that people clown him on twitter?

              Look I'm not defending him at all. I think the dude's team is a damn joke now. But he could retire tomorrow and assuming he has any IQ at all and doesn't blow all his cash on Bentleys, gold chains, and an 8 million dollar mansion -- he's going to be set until the end of his life. The guy is living well. Real well. Hell he probably laughs that he got like a mil or whatever it was when he headlined that Showtime card that one night against poor Salka.
              Last edited by Mike D; 09-27-2016, 10:32 AM.

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              • #17
                [QUOTE=mlac;17077261]I keep hearing this, i think most of the people that say this are boxrec boxing fan's. They see a name and think ' that's a good win', without taking into account how past prime or washed up or old a fighter is

                a quick breakdown:

                mlac;
                Eric Morrales X2 - Obviously way past his prime and at the end of his career and fighting only for one last payday(s)

                Sugar Ray Lenrd:
                Not so fast dude, Danny was a young (still is) upcoming fighter being tested against a former world champion & he past. Also prior to this match Morales lost a majority decision to Maidana. So rather than consider this a negative it is actually a positive for a young fighter.

                mlac;
                Zab Judah - Same story as above, nearly 10 year's past his prime and at the end of his career.

                Sugar Ray Lenrd:
                True this was an older Zab, but he did surprise everybody with his KO of Vernon Paris. Danny was actually giving Zab a beaten & if wasn't for Zab being allowed to hold so much it could have been a stoppage. But make no mistake about it Zab earned his title shot by beaten Paris who was undefeated with a record of 26-0. FYI

                mlac;
                Amir Khan - lost nearly every round until he found Khan's china, good win.

                Sugar Ray Lenrd:
                Actually it doesn't matter whether Khan was winning the fight or that Danny was losing every round up to inevitable which was the 4 rnd, it ended so early!

                mlac;
                Lucas Matthysese - was the underdog coming in, won a close fight but still a good win and the best win of his career- both fighter's were never the same again, Danny pissed blood for weeks after this fight and his eardrum was perforated. While Mattysese's eye seems to be a career ender for him.

                Sugar Ray Lenrd:
                Again Danny won.

                mlac;
                Herrera - Herrera is tricky boxer with decent skills and schooled danny, clearly won the fight and Danny get's the gift decision. Herrera later loses every single round to Frankie Gomez
                First loss of Garcia's career.

                Sugar Ray Lenrd:
                Just about every fighter has their gifts...including mayweather (Castillo, Maidana I) muhammed Ali (Ken Norton, Jimmy Young) Etc....

                mlac;
                Rod Salka - One of the most disgusting mismatches of recent year's in boxing.

                Sugar Ray Lenrd:
                Dude, get over it with the rod salka stuff, Every boxer in the history of boxing have there Rod Salkas

                mlac;
                Lamont Peterson - Very close fight, Danny tell's Lamont at the end of the fight that ' you won '.
                Danny get's the decision.

                Sugar Ray Lenrd:
                Yeah he probably told him that cause he didn't like his own performance. But Garcia is no judge he is a fighter & The truth is Peterson started fighting a little too late. He gave up so many rnds early in the fight. He may have busted Danny up late in the fight, but he waited a little too late. There strategy was good, stay away from the harder hitter & then make the move in the later rounds, problem is he waited a little too long. Winning a fight that you almost lost is actually a plus.

                mlac;
                Paulie - Again same story as judah, morrales etc, look's like a decent name on paper, when in reality paulie is at the end of his career.

                Sugar Ray Lenrd:
                True, nevertheless he did what he was suppose to do & that is stop Paulie just like Porter did which was Paulie's prior fight.

                mlac;
                Guerrero - Garcia fight's a guy who most boxing fan's notice has declined
                massively and look's washed up.

                Sugar Ray Lenrd:
                Guerrero fights prior to garcia were Aaron Martinez & Thurman...
                Last edited by sugar ray lenrd; 09-27-2016, 10:45 AM.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by mlac View Post
                  Vs who?

                  I never saw the Holt fight, was a SD wasnt it?
                  He lost the Holt and Theophane fights. And was gifted the W just like in the Herrera and Peterson fights.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by mlac View Post
                    You're nitpicking a bit, yea it ended quickly, but he was still being outboxed and outclassed - it doesnt really matter though you are correct as a KO is a KO.

                    As for 'clearly' beating lucas, that's a slight exaggeration, he won the fight, but he didnt win by more than 2-3 round's.

                    Let's not forget he lowblowed lucas well over a dozen times, it really was ridiculous, bordering on Salido-lomachenko style.

                    If there was a fair reff, you might be seeing a draw with point deductions, but that's all hypothetical now so...I did say it's the best win of his career, so credit where it's due...
                    I'm nittpicking?? Your whole post/tread is nittpickery at it's finest. Listen to yourself, how the hell was Danny being outboxed and outclassed for only 2 rounds?? Khan is a very fast handed fighter. As soon as Danny got the timing down, Khan got splattered. It took only 2 rounds to do it. That's not Danny being outboxed and outclassed. That's Amir Khan getting exposed and (flatlined), like the poster, lol.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by mlac View Post
                      I keep hearing this, i think most of the people that say this are boxrec boxing fan's. They see a name and think ' that's a good win', without taking into account how past prime or washed up or old a fighter is

                      a quick breakdown:

                      Eric Morrales X2 - Obviously way past his prime and at the end of his career and fighting only for one last payday(s)

                      Zab Judah - Same story as above, nearly 10 year's past his prime and at the end of his career.

                      Amir Khan - lost nearly every round until he found Khan's china, good win.

                      Lucas Matthysese - was the underdog coming in, won a close fight but still a good win and the best win of his career- both fighter's were never the same again, Danny pissed blood for weeks after this fight and his eardrum was perforated. While Mattysese's eye seems to be a career ender for him.

                      Herrera - Herrera is tricky boxer with decent skills and schooled danny, clearly won the fight and Danny get's the gift decision. Herrera later loses every single round to Frankie Gomez
                      First loss of Garcia's career.

                      Rod Salka - One of the most disgusting mismatches of recent year's in boxing.

                      Lamont Peterson - Very close fight, Danny tell's Lamont at the end of the fight that ' you won '.
                      Danny get's the decision.

                      Paulie - Again same story as judah, morrales etc, look's like a decent name on paper, when in reality paulie is at the end of his career.

                      Guerrero - Garcia fight's a guy who most boxing fan's notice has declined massively and look's washed up.
                      Guerrero get's dropped and beaten by Journeyman with 4 KO's Aaron Martinez and get's a debatable SD prior to fighting Garcia.
                      His next fight he get's dropped again and loses to a cab driver.

                      In conclusion Danny Garcia has 2 good win's.
                      yeah agree with pretty much all of this, khan was a good win, even with his glass chin, swift did what many good fighters havent been able to do. Matthyse was a solid win although i was never that high on him, seen as judah and alexander beat him too. I know that a win is a win, but some of the fighters ive seen swift struggle with tell me that he would have a very hard time against the top dogs at welter

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