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  • club fighter
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    #21
    Both fighters have come up the ranks without facing many world class opponents, although Joshua slightly edges Parker out in that he looked more dominant in doing so.

    Parker having a bout with Dimitrenko won't prove that much either, look at his (Dimitrenko) record and you will see that he only beat fighters with poor records since getting KO'd by Pulev.

    I like JP a lot but he's not ready yet, and the bookies are right.
    Last edited by club fighter; 09-28-2016, 11:36 AM.

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    • NateHound
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      #22
      Originally posted by juggernaut666
      The match up was already broken down to you on THIS thread ,you fool...lol

      And here was your quote ...'These parts I can't argue." now who is the delusional one here?

      Now if you want me to post my complete break down of the match let me now and school will begin!
      I can't argue those things, they were legitimate points. I'm sure you have some great points too, I think you're a great poster. I just meant that you can't say it'll be an EASY fight then call others names for having a different opinion!

      Again, I WON'T argue that AJ would be heavily favoured as he should. I also think AJ right now wins this fight. What I'm arguing is that it will be an easy fight for Joshua. Simple as that.

      Unless you think Parker is an easier fight than Whyte, Martin, Breazeale? Surely Parker is AJ's biggest test so far?

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      • juggernaut666
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        #23
        Originally posted by NateHound
        I can't argue those things, they were legitimate points. I'm sure you have some great points too, I think you're a great poster. I just meant that you can't say it'll be an EASY fight then call others names for having a different opinion!

        Again, I WON'T argue that AJ would be heavily favoured as he should. I also think AJ right now wins this fight. What I'm arguing is that it will be an easy fight for Joshua. Simple as that.

        Unless you think Parker is an easier fight than Whyte, Martin, Breazeale? Surely Parker is AJ's biggest test so far?
        Im a betting man and b/c so ive studied Parker under a tight eye which I do with everyone. Parker has holes in his game which cater to Joshua more, whether hes more talented or not,at the end of the day its match ups. I don't particularly find Parker an easier match up than Whyte ,no. Whyte has different looks/stances and hits harder with a proven chin and longer reach. Watch some of those Joshua shots that land, Parker hasn't fought any power punchers.Takam is a slapper really and fights in sparring partner mode in ALL his fights.


        I also think Breazeale is a better technical fighter than Parker but hes not as fast,hes highly underatted and can punch as well,he doesn't resemble an amateur style. Also has a good chin otherwise he would have been knocked out in 3 vs Joshua who wasn't really trying hard, but the shots were landing regardless. Martin is as good as Miller until proven or unproven otherwise.


        That brings us to Joshua in 18/19 fights,parker is getting the best version of Joshua while hes not expanded his own skills at all .After the dimintrenko fight we will see how he looks, it'll actually be his first real live opponent coming in to try and punch with semi good skills,not sparring partner mode like Takam who I had to watch the fight 3 x today just to be sure he was actually trying, and sadly he was because that's how he fights.


        So the answer is I would put a better prepared Whyte as a bigger risk than Parker right now.and I wouldn't be shocked at all if whyte were to knock out parker,its a even caliber fight, despite what ppl wish to believe,Parker hasn't shown otherwise really. Sylistically Whyte brings a bit more for Joshua and is not so easily moved around the ring.


        Parker wont be Joshuas toughest fight, different jab...different jab levels and Parker needs to out work his opponents to win, the double /triple jabs are going to find it hard against someone with such reach as Joshua does who again is not just going to stand there and wait for the set ups. the likely hood of Parker still standing after 6 is low.i don't believe he will win a round,he is far to easy to read and figure ouyt,open to counter punches and is lost without measuring distance with his jab.
        Last edited by juggernaut666; 09-29-2016, 03:54 AM.

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          #24
          Originally posted by 1hourRun
          What happen was.....they were reminded by the Crolla vs. Linares bout that the UK refs are in Eddie Hearns pocket...I mean is it a coincidence that you see guys like Howard Foster and O'Connor officiating these contest when Eddie Hearn is the promoter? Look at two of Joshuas significant fights ( Breazele-Whyet ; Foster was in charge ) : then in the Charles Martin fight some phantom shows up ( Jean-Pierre Van Imschoot ) to officiate a world championship fight! Now just last week we see Terry O'Connor as the ref in Crolla-Linares.......connect the dots and you can see the pattern going on in meaningful fights for Hearn promoted fighters.
          It does make you wonder if they know some other variable.

          Bookies aren't ****** blind fans and those odds are a bit ridiculous considering Joshua is also an unknown quantity.

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            #25
            Originally posted by ////
            It does make you wonder if they know some other variable.

            Bookies aren't ****** blind fans and those odds are a bit ridiculous considering Joshua is also an unknown quantity.
            I mean when you got bookies sponsoring your cards ( Eddie Hearns ) chances are they know these guys very well -- I seen the bookies logo all over the ring and ropes on Eddie Hearns promoted cards...Over here in the states that would look really bad and in most instances would not be allowed as ******** is illegal in most parts. These ******** syndicates are are literally investing in Hearns.

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            • NateHound
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              #26
              Originally posted by juggernaut666
              and hits harder with a proven chin and longer reach.

              I also think Breazeale is a better technical fighter than Parker but hes not as fast,hes highly underatted and can punch as well.
              Great post man. The thing's I have left quoted are the parts I have to disagree with though! There's really not a lot to say Whyte hits harder. They have one guy that they both fought in Minto. Both stopped him in different ways. Both dropped him twice. He has a worse KO ratio against similar if not WORSE competition.

              As for the proven chin.. how? The first real bomber he fought knocked him senseless multiple times. We're yet to see how Parker takes it but to say Whyte's chin is proven is a bit of a fallacy, he proved he can't take the great shots.

              And I don't want to bag your opinion because that was a great post but man I cannot agree about Brezeale at all. He's so freaking sloppy I honestly think he is terrible. Wouldn't have got a title shot in any other division.

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                #27
                Originally posted by NateHound
                Great post man. The thing's I have left quoted are the parts I have to disagree with though! There's really not a lot to say Whyte hits harder. They have one guy that they both fought in Minto. Both stopped him in different ways. Both dropped him twice. He has a worse KO ratio against similar if not WORSE competition.

                As for the proven chin.. how? The first real bomber he fought knocked him senseless multiple times. We're yet to see how Parker takes it but to say Whyte's chin is proven is a bit of a fallacy, he proved he can't take the great shots.

                And I don't want to bag your opinion because that was a great post but man I cannot agree about Brezeale at all. He's so freaking sloppy I honestly think he is terrible. Wouldn't have got a title shot in any other division.
                It took Joshua 7 rounds to k.o Whyte....a rematch will most likely result in 4 rounds. Taking shots from Joshua is nothing that Parker can experience unless he fights Joshua because theres nobody that hits like him ,unless you step in to the ring with Wlad. Parkers chin has held up so far but nothing to suggest he would stand up like whyte did,i saw some replays of his head snapping back a few times by far weaker punchers so that's what I base it on.


                They have numerous guys that they both fought, three if im not mistaken and whyte has finished them faster than Parker.Thats not what I look at , I look at snap and overall impact,Parkers punches are quicker but less follow thru,hes an arm puncher as oppossed to Whytes twist full body momentum and an extra 10/15 pounds or so.To me it looks like whyte hits harder and when he tries to k.o you (unlike last fight) he usually gets it. I think you will see that his next fight.

                You will see Breazeale is very good,you guys are judging him on Joshua and so called fights he was losing ,when he was countering just fine and ****ing Mansour around mid way thru ,his power added up and hurt him bad,it was only a matter of time before his size and power was going to win that fight. what you like most fail to realize is challengers fight the champions harder,put that Breazeakle who fought Joshua against Mansour and he wins everytime. The knockdown was also an off balance one,it had little to do with Breazeales chin...Joshua is the only one to legitamatly knock him down with straight power.
                Last edited by juggernaut666; 09-29-2016, 08:10 AM.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by juggernaut666


                  I also think Breazeale is a better technical fighter than Parker
                  LMFAO

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                  • juggernaut666
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by mlac
                    LMFAO
                    Parker STILL fights like an amateur,you would know this more if you had a better handle on boxing...I KNOW YOU DONT, ive fought amatuers and pros myself....again ..below.....


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                    Logic > ******ity

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                    • mlac
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by juggernaut666
                      Parker STILL fights like an amateur,you would know this more if you had a better handle on boxing...I KNOW YOU DONT, ive fought amatuers and pros myself....again ..below.....


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                      Logic > ******ity

                      You are eddie hearn's wet dream, 02 arena is basically full of idiot's paying money to watch a robot fight fat failed NFL players and then proclaiming him to be the best heavyweight on the planet. THEN claim the Fat failed NFL players are better than one of the best prospects in the division ( WHO HAS A BETTER WIN THAN AJ)

                      you are truly ridiculous

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