Oscar vs Floyd, is a Lose-Lose Situation for Oscar.

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  • Zab Super Judah
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    #11
    Originally posted by $Manny_P$
    If Oscar beats Floyd, people will say that he beat a much smaller man in Floyd. It was a mismatch and to be expected. If Floyd beats Oscar, Floyd will posibly get branded as the best fighter of all time for climbimg the 154lbs weightclass, beating de la hoya, and getting a 5th World title for his 5th division. The fight won't even be about Oscar, it'll be about Floyd. Anyone else sees it this way?

    well I use to think that it was lose lose for him. But people consider floyd to be a god ( I think he is one of the greatest fighters of my time) so if dlh did beat floyd I woudl give DLH alot of props and respect for winning. DlH ccame frmo 130 also and he also lost to a "smaller" man in mosley but it didnt hurt his legacy.

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      #12
      Originally posted by mECHsLAVE
      I don't see Floyd as a "much smaller man" than DLH. Floyd looks big at 147 and DLH started at 130, just like Floyd. Frame-wise they are very close in size. Weight-wise they are fairly close as well.

      But DLH's best days are well behind him, so I think it's actually Floyd who has nothing to gain. If he beats him, so what? Most would say that the DLH of the mid-90's would beat him. If Floyd loses, then a past-his-best DLH beat him, and then you have to start really looking at Floyd's resume. Really his most impressive win was against Corrales. He's 1-1 with Castillo, in 2 boring as hell fights where nothing was really solved. Since then, he's dodged the best fights.

      I'd give DLH a serious chance, even past his best, to beat Floyd.
      I completely disagree. 1st off how can you say that Floyd looks big at 147? Floyd looked small at 140 and was basically the same size because he only came into the ring at 146. How can Floyd look big at 147 when he only came in at 146 and others come in at around 160? No way Floyd & Oscar have the same frame because Oscar is much taller and he shoudve never been at 130 anyway. Also dont forget that Oscar fought at 160 and again, Floyd only came into the ring at 146 for a 147 pound fight. Thats unheard of.

      2nd, Oscar's win last night proves his best days arent behind him. People are ripping Oscar basically for getting beat by X and looking crappy against Sturm but he shouldnt have been at 160 anyway. At 154 he has beaten Mayorga, Vargas, and really beat Mosley.


      PS-Whats up with your name? Do you have anything to do with Mech?

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        #13
        Originally posted by DLT
        I completely disagree. 1st off how can you say that Floyd looks big at 147? Floyd looked small at 140 and was basically the same size because he only came into the ring at 146. How can Floyd look big at 147 when he only came in at 146 and others come in at around 160? No way Floyd & Oscar have the same frame because Oscar is much taller and he shoudve never been at 130 anyway. Also dont forget that Oscar fought at 160 and again, Floyd only came into the ring at 146 for a 147 pound fight. Thats unheard of.

        2nd, Oscar's win last night proves his best days arent behind him. People are ripping Oscar basically for getting beat by X and looking crappy against Sturm but he shouldnt have been at 160 anyway. At 154 he has beaten Mayorga, Vargas, and really beat Mosley.


        PS-Whats up with your name? Do you have anything to do with Mech?

        1- Yes, Oscar fought at 160, and looked terrible and lost- like you just said "He shouldn't have been at 160 anyway." So what exactly is your point of saying Oscar was at 160. Even last night, look at Oscar, he didn't look overly slim or cut at all. I'd say 147 is actually the correct weight for Oscar to be at, judging from how his body looks at 154. I think slimming down 7 pounds would benefit Oscar and be perfect for him to fight at.

        2- Yes, I realize Floyd came in at 146. You notice I commented on how he "looked." He looked far bigger than Mitchell in their fight, even though Mitchell came in weighing more. Don't get so hung up on weight.

        3- Floyd is 2 inches shorter than Oscar and they have an almost identical reach.

        4- Oscar's best days are behind him. Just because he stops Mayorga, don't think he's getting better or hasn't slipped a little. He has. If you think he hasn't, then you simply haven't watched his career and need to.

        5- I don't know who or what "Mech" is. I've had this name since 1999 when I played the original Unreal Tournament online in leagues.

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        • LondonRingRules
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          #14
          Originally posted by $Manny_P$
          If Oscar beats Floyd, people will say that he beat a much smaller man in Floyd. It was a mismatch and to be expected. If Floyd beats Oscar, Floyd will posibly get branded as the best fighter of all time for climbimg the 154lbs weightclass, beating de la hoya, and getting a 5th World title for his 5th division. The fight won't even be about Oscar, it'll be about Floyd. Anyone else sees it this way?
          ** Sorta like you were a lose/lose proposition for you parents, eh?

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            #15
            Originally posted by $Manny_P$
            If Oscar beats Floyd, people will say that he beat a much smaller man in Floyd. It was a mismatch and to be expected. If Floyd beats Oscar, Floyd will posibly get branded as the best fighter of all time for climbimg the 154lbs weightclass, beating de la hoya, and getting a 5th World title for his 5th division. The fight won't even be about Oscar, it'll be about Floyd. Anyone else sees it this way?

            could be right, but all i see is a fighter -mayweather- whos only reason to fight delahoya is for the money

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              #16
              Originally posted by $Manny_P$
              If Oscar beats Floyd, people will say that he beat a much smaller man in Floyd. It was a mismatch and to be expected. If Floyd beats Oscar, Floyd will posibly get branded as the best fighter of all time for climbimg the 154lbs weightclass, beating de la hoya, and getting a 5th World title for his 5th division. The fight won't even be about Oscar, it'll be about Floyd. Anyone else sees it this way?
              I dont see it that way, if Oscar beats Floyd he'll probably be remembered as the first to beat Mayweather, so that would be great for Oscar, it just the way it works, you just can't lose anything from a win to Floyd...

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                #17
                If Hopkins can make a name for himself beatin up lil guys...Than so can Oscar lol..

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by MaYaN_SuN
                  If Hopkins can make a name for himself beatin up lil guys...Than so can Oscar lol..

                  thats funny, but hey, delahoya already made a name for himself before mayweather

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                  • enadeus
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                    #19
                    No its not because he is going to make a ton of money and then induce Mayweather to join his promotion company and make a ton of money of him.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by ferocity
                      could be right, but all i see is a fighter -mayweather- whos only reason to fight delahoya is for the money
                      Fighting de la hoya isn't just about the money. Beating de la hoya is more rewarding than beating Margarito. One, Floyd would put a legend in his resume (assuming he wins). Two, he'll win a 5th world title in a his 5th weight class. Three, a possible praise of being the best of all time at such a young age of 29.

                      Yes the money is definitely there, but this is more about legacy in the boxing game for Floyd in my opinion.

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