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  • Eastcoast
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    #11
    Desperation: When you try to convince the world Jarrod Fletcher is awesome, so that Danny Jacobs will have a better resume.

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    • LoadedWraps
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      #12
      Originally posted by Chollo Vista
      Let's not kid ourselves TRP. The only time "amateurs" matter is when it's the non-demographic named Dimitri, Sergei or Lyokovich has a stellar resume or beat someone important. That's the only time it matters around here.

      If it didn't, then Andre Ward would be touted as the greatest boxer in the history of boxingscene
      Originally posted by therealpugilist
      I've more than noticed

      the only time I've seen amatuer results come up is when a puncher has a weak pro resume


      i.e......GGG.....Beterbiev and a few others.


      the ams dont mean shyt when it comes to who can win in the pros....different style, pace, etc.

      Nice to see you guys admitting to trolling here.


      No one (credible) puts too much stock into the amateurs, it depends on your amateur career really. It can mean something, it really just depends.

      Guys like Lomachenko, Shiming, Floyd, DLH, all had early shots at good challenges in their pro careers to make the most out of it in the pros. How can you tell me amateurs don't matter? Guys like Rigo, Shiming, fighting for titles before they even reach 15 fights. You can't come into the pro game with no amateur backround and land good fights.


      Amateur boxing also hones the skills you need in the pro game quite well. If you don't think your amateur experience serves you in the pros you are a fool. And you are better than this realpuglist, with your sparring videos and such, I know you study this sport, let the homerism go dude.
      Last edited by LoadedWraps; 09-26-2016, 05:24 PM.

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      • Chollo Vista
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        #13
        Originally posted by Eastcoast
        Desperation: When you try to convince the world Matt Korobov is awesome, so that Andy Lee will have a better resume.
        You bring up a great point. I'm glad you entered this thread being that you're one of the guilty parties.

        Why do you do this so often?

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        • Chollo Vista
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          #14
          Originally posted by LoadedWraps

          Nice to see you guys admitting to trolling here.


          No one (credible) puts too much stock into the amateurs, it depends on your amateur career really. It can mean something, it really just depends.

          Guys like Lomachenko, Shiming, Floyd, DLH, all had early shots at good challenges in their pro careers to make the most out of it in the pros. How can you tell me amateurs don't matter? Guys like Rigo, Shiming, fighting for titles before they even reach 15 fights. You can't come into the pro game with no amateur backround and land good fights.


          Amateur boxing also hones the skills you need in the pro game quite well. If you don't think your amateur experience serves you in the pros you are a fool. And you are better than this realpuglist, with your sparring videos and such, I know you study this sport, let the homerism go dude.
          I say judge a pro off of his accomplishments as a pro.

          Judge an amateur off his accomplishments as an amateur. Kovalev got his ass knocked out as an amateur. That should never be brought up when talking about the professional Kovalev.

          At no time, whatsoever, should a pro who didn't live up to expectations as a pro be able to live off what he did as an amateur. Never.

          That's like Iverson saying "We talkin bout practice".

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          • Eastcoast
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            #15
            Originally posted by Chollo Vista
            You bring up a great point. I'm glad you entered this thread being that you're one of the guilty parties.

            Why do you do this so often?
            Korobov's win over Uzecatigui is better than anything Fletcher's done. Additionally Korobov's had a steady line of wins over decent journeyman: Edwards, Duran, Brewer, Findley and Vera. None of those guys were great, but Korobov handled them pretty easy. Where Fletcher on the other hand stayed in Australia and built his record on low level Australian fighters and foreign welter-weights & light-weights (Singwancha, Suico, Kotey). The only reason Fletcher made into a title fight was because Max Bursak had a mental melt down during their fight.


            You're going a long way to justify Jacobs' choosing to fight Mora over Lee.

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            • Chollo Vista
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              #16
              Originally posted by Eastcoast
              Korobov's win over Uzecatigui is better than anything Fletcher's done. Additionally Korobov's had a steady line of wins over decent journeyman: Edwards, Duran, Brewer, Findley and Vera.
              Thank you for proving my point. Did you just say "Korobov had a steady line of wins over decent journeymen". Then turn around and mention Edwards, Duran, Brewer, Findley and Vera (coming off 16 straight losses) to prove a point on how good a professional Matt Korobov was?

              Let that sink in for a minute

              Guys like you are why this thread was created
              Last edited by Chollo Vista; 09-26-2016, 06:15 PM.

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                #17
                I guess BJS is a god for blasting him out in 2.
                Danny didn't finish him when he had him out and about in the first and prolonged it to the 5th or whatever

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Hougigo
                  I guess BJS is a god for blasting him out in 2.
                  It was a bullschit stoppage and you know it

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                  • Eastcoast
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Chollo Vista
                    Thank you for proving my point. Did you just say "Korobov had a steady line of wins over decent journeymen". Then turn around and mention Edwards, Duran, Brewer, Findley and Vera (coming off 16 straight losses) to prove a point on how good a professional Matt Korobov was?

                    Let that sink in for a minute
                    You must be new to the sport. Fighting guys of the caliber is generally how you're built up to the higher levels. Fletcher wasn't fighting guys even that good. Korobov earned his title shot at Quillin with the Uze-cat win, where he clearly controlled the fight. Fletcher looked like Bursak could take him out at anytime if he didn't lack focus.

                    I can't believe you made a whole thread as to why Jacobs chose Mora over Lee, lol! Dude, Jacob's was at the Showtime studio during the Lee/Saunders fight, saying how excited he was to fight Lee before Lee lost. Lee lost by MD, Saunders didn't want Jacobs, seems a simple solution for Danny's next opponent. Instead he chose a 35 year old Mora who'd been out of the ring over a year, punches like a b*tch and who Danny already beat. He could've fought Lee over the summer in NY and actual got some attention & respect for it. Lee's still ranked in the top 5 at MW, where Mora's not in the top 20.

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                    • Chollo Vista
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Eastcoast
                      Korobov earned his title shot at Quillin with the Uze-cat win,
                      You lost all credibility when you mentioned the fact that Korobov beat "decent journeymen" and even mentioned shot to schit decision win over Brian Vera, coming off 25 losses, in an effort to justify an Andy Lee win.

                      BTW, Jerrod Fletcher has the better amateur wins, doe

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