Comments Thread For: Teddy Atlas Wonders if Brook Had Injury PRIOR To Golovkin Bout

[Larry the boss]

Yes Teddy ,Brook entered the biggest fight in his life with a serious eye injury that caused him visual problems and couldve blinded him.It was only against one of boxings most dangerous punchers from two weights up so he didn't think it would matter..He most likely picked up the injury sparring in a headguard against Liam Smith.He didn't start pawing at his eye in round two because in round one he forgot he had the injury in all the excitement of getting hurt by big punches.Of course Brook wouldn't have pulled out of the fight like he has so many times before because he's always got the other eye to get through life with.Teddy needs to be sectioned.

hey the excuse worked for Manny

[PunchyPotorff]

Pac was injured before the fight, and failed to disclose that info. Floyd had like half a gallon of some fluid running through his veins the night before the fight. Both of those con artists took all of us for a ride to the tune of half a billion dollars. Im not giving either one of those thieves a crutch, just merely trying to point out that a pre-existing facial fracture is not as easy to hide as a torn cuff. Like you said, it was the ******est decision Pacquiao made in his career.

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Originally Posted by GGG Gloveking View Post
Exactly! Cant remember verbatim, but he said something in the 4th (I think) like, "Look at the swelling and discoloration on Brook's eye. Looks like he broke his orbital bone", or something very close to that. We're not talking about a pulled or strained muscle like Pacquiao scammed us with, a broken facial bone is pretty recognizable.

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Initially, you made it sound like he was full of it for claiming an injury. As if it didn't happen. If you're now saying yes it was an injury, and by scam you mean ripping off the fans just like Floydie did with his juicing, then fine. We agree.

[GGG Gloveking]

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Originally Posted by GGG Gloveking View Post
Exactly! Cant remember verbatim, but he said something in the 4th (I think) like, "Look at the swelling and discoloration on Brook's eye. Looks like he broke his orbital bone", or something very close to that. We're not talking about a pulled or strained muscle like Pacquiao scammed us with, a broken facial bone is pretty recognizable.

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Initially, you made it sound like he was full of it for claiming an injury. As if it didn't happen. If you're now saying yes it was an injury, and by scam you mean ripping off the fans just like Floydie did with his juicing, then fine. We agree.

Yes, my apologies. I see where I sounded misleading there. I do believe the injury was legit, I meant the scam was in his lack of disclosure. Both Floyd and Manny scammed us all on that fight.

[SN!PER]

Maybe one of the hardest punchers in the sport landing sledgehammers on his face had something to do with his injury, just a thought.

[M Bison]

Teddy Atlas is a bit of a tit...
How do you know your leg is broken when the bones sticking out your leg without having an X-Ray?
It's impossible how could they know that lol, Teddy needs to learn about symptoms of injuries they exist and sometimes you can put it down to that so yeah he fought with a broken orbital bone from the start what a fxcking Idiot!

There is a reason why Teddy remains on only ESPN Friday Fight Night a failed trainer and a biased pundit who can't give someone his due credit I have no Idea why Povetkin even bothered with such a flop of a trainer who has basically piggy backed off the success of Cus.

[M Bison]

hey the excuse worked for Manny

Well when you've been made to wait 6 years for the fight to happen It's a bit damn obvious why Manny probably didn't want to pull out shoulder injuries can be a common thing in boxing.

Nobody would be ****** enough to fight with a broken orbital bone Ingles would not allow that nor do I think Eddie Hearn would be happy with that happening.

[Larry the boss]

Well when you've been made to wait 6 years for the fight to happen It's a bit damn obvious why Manny probably didn't want to pull out shoulder injuries can be a common thing in boxing.

Nobody would be ****** enough to fight with a broken orbital bone Ingles would not allow that nor do I think Eddie Hearn would be happy with that happening.

Who exactly made him walk from the fight over drug testing???

[Boxing Logic]

I can understand you feeling that way but let's be serious, there are people still claiming Pacman entered his fight with May injured. If it's possible for one it's possible for both. Clearly GGG is better than Brook, injured or not, and would've knocked him out regardless. And to be clear, I don't believe Brook nor Pac came into their fights injured or less than 100%.

You are just a biased Floyd fan who started this convo off by saying Atlas had a reasonable theory, then changed your view to "to be clear, I don't believe Brook came into the fight injured or less than 100%" once you had a chance to use your original, false position to pivot the conversation into defending Floyd and discrediting Pacquiao by creating a false equivalency, which was your real position and goal the whole time.

Why is it false? Because there is evidence Pacquiao was injured before the Floyd fight. Remember how he wanted that Toradol shot in his shoulder before the fight that got denied? You don't put Toradol in your shoulder unless it's injured. Remember how Floyd himself said he had spies in Pacquiao's camp (real fair play by the way) who told him Pacquiao had to stop training/sparring for a couple weeks? That comes from your idol himself, the best source you can find, and that was because of the shoulder injury.

So yeah man, it's totally the same if you can find evidence that Brook had the eye injury before the fight, like there is evidence that Pacquiao's shoulder was injured and also like there is evidence that Floyd covered up PED usage with an illegal IV, discrediting his close "win" completely. Otherwise get out of here with your biased, false comparisons.

[Boxing Logic]

hey the excuse worked for Manny

Manny was in a position fighting someone who ducked him for 9 years. That put him in a precarious position the whole time, both from a negotiating standpoint (have to give up everything otherwise the ducker won't fight you), to going through with the fight while injured (otherwise the ducker may use your injury as an excuse to call the fight off for good). Still, he probably would have been forced to cancel the fight if his shoulder was completely torn before the fight. It was only partially torn, and he thought he could fight normally with it if he got the toradol injection, which Floyd's Nevada Commission rejected even though he was later allowed to use illegal amounts of saline to likely cover PED usage. Funny how that works.

Pacquiao only fully injured his shoulder in round 4 when he hurt Floyd, then through a large combination, hurt his shoulder completely, and stepped back and stopped pressing his advantage at a key point in the fight. The dumb commentators said Manny was being smart not to punch himself out, but when has Manny punched himself out with combinations lol? Either Manny was totally passed his prime, and couldn't even throw multiple combos back to back anymore, or he hurt his shoulder even more, which is obvious when you see the look on his face. Just go back and watch him how he steps back awkwardly and his face looks like doom even though he had hurt Floyd. You can tell something is wrong. 4th round. Go!

So yeah the two aren't the same at all.

[PunchyPotorff]

Yes, my apologies. I see where I sounded misleading there. I do believe the injury was legit, I meant the scam was in his lack of disclosure. Both Floyd and Manny scammed us all on that fight.

No worries. Yeah it was definitely a cash grab at alotta boxing fan's expense. And those 2 should've known better. An event that big, bogus, a black eye for the entire sport.