Comments Thread For: Canelo vs. Smith PPV Buyrate is Not Expected To Break 300K

[PunchyPotorff]

what did I write to you before when I said 70-30.....I agreed and that's slightly more than over double the amount.....but lets get one thing straight canelo done les than 250k ppv on his last fight which gos to prove canelo is far removed from being anything like a mayweather or pacquaio at there peak in ppv buys....and for canelo to make big numbers he needs a worth dance partner and both of canelos highest numbers were cotto and mayweather and that proves without another hall of famer he makes just medicocre numbers....so why should canelo make 5 times the amount over golovkin when he needs golovkin to make good numbers....be fair and look at with unbias eyes and stop talking rubbish....canelo vs smith done 250 k and if he faced golovkin would make 800k at least....so 70-30 is fair

Yes, like I said, 70/30 Canelo's favor is fair, but you fail to recognize a lot more rears were watching the fight on TV than you'll acknowledge. Mexico has free TV for Canelo's fights that we have PPVs for here in the States. And Mexican Americans here in the States... I guarantee almost all got the free live stream. Very few paid for it. Yes, ANY fighter does better PPV #s with a more known opponent, but it's just hogwash friend to float the idea Canelo is dead in the water with his popularity.

[AllEyesOpen]

The same should be said for GayLoveKin, he just fought a friggen WW at the full 13 lb to 160, at least khan only had to move up 8 lbs, even though I hate khan...it is true.

Yes he did but unlike Khan he is a current champion, and what few like to mention is aalthough Khan did only come up to jmw+1 on fight night they both fought someone near 170 lbs.

I honestly respect both fighters but Canelo has been a mw for some time now and needs to stop pretending he's not.

[Bronx2245]

You can call it what you like, but that ain't the language I prefer to use. To my mind an offer of anything below 20% for GGG is probably GBP lowballing whereas a demand of 40+% is K2 pricing themselves out, but I'm hardly qualified to make that judgement. In fact I'm just pulling those figures outta my ass.

I respect you for use of language! I just find it ironic that when fighters don't like K2's offers, many GGG fans call it "ducking." However if GGG doesn't like what he's offered, then he was "low-balled," etc. Do you think $10 million dollars is a bad offer?

[cork]

I respect you for use of language! I just find it ironic that when fighters don't like K2's offers, many GGG fans call it "ducking." However if GGG doesn't like what he's offered, then he was "low-balled," etc. Do you think $10 million dollars is a bad offer?

55/45 is a fair offer for his opponent. Getting offered 1.5m for a fight that generates 3.5 mil is a fair offer.

Just throwing numbers around is 10 mil fair if the fight end up generating 100 mil? Was manny $40 mil offer a bad offer when that fight generated 500 mil? You have to put it into context. Percentage is always the best way to go. Something likea 70/30 is fair I think.

[Mate_Parlov]

I respect you for use of language! I just find it ironic that when fighters don't like K2's offers, many GGG fans call it "ducking." However if GGG doesn't like what he's offered, then he was "low-balled," etc. Do you think $10 million dollars is a bad offer?

Do you really think it is smart business decision to accept 90:10 split AKA $10 million dollars flat fee? Would you do it if you are in GGG shoes?

[Citizen Koba]

I respect you for use of language! I just find it ironic that when fighters don't like K2's offers, many GGG fans call it "ducking." However if GGG doesn't like what he's offered, then he was "low-balled," etc. Do you think $10 million dollars is a bad offer?

Yeah, it's one of those things. It ain't just GGG either. Whether it's low-balling or pricing oneself out seems to vary depending on how much you like or dislike a fighter. I'm trying to keep it straight, though of course I have my own bias.

$10 mil seems like a decent offer to me, but I haven't even got a guesstimate of what the total revenue would be so it could be way off the mark.

[( . Y . )]

Canelo not a huge star. Sad to say but boxing is dead.

[Sancho Puncho]

Honestly I think 250k+ against Smith with a weak undercard is a pretty number, which shows that Canelo has a draw of about 250-300K mexicans who will buy his PPV no matter what. GGG has about 100-150K american fans who will also buy his PPV no matter what. To get a better understanding of GGG draw power, K2 should try and have GGG-Jacobs on HBO PPV. If it would still do 100-150K, then K2 should take flat fee or 75-25 and be happy with it. If it does 300K, than 60-40 is very negotiable and reasonable split. If GGG-Jacobs lands on a regular HBO than flat fee or 70-30 seems fair. I think that GGG-Canelo is a decent fight, but not a super-fight. There is no great anticipation at this point.

[tuatua]

You know the orbital bone is one of the easiest bones to break right? You also know a 140 lb Cotto broke Malignaggi's? Remember 147lb Manny broke marga******o's? ****ing idiot.

Depends on which part of the orbital bone. Frankly it is easier to break your hand or even your wrist from punching a guy than the victim of the punch breaking an orbital bone.

Also, you discounted GGG punching power by referencing Cotto and Manny? Huh?

[Bronx2245]

55/45 is a fair offer for his opponent. Getting offered 1.5m for a fight that generates 3.5 mil is a fair offer.

Just throwing numbers around is 10 mil fair if the fight end up generating 100 mil? Was manny $40 mil offer a bad offer when that fight generated 500 mil? You have to put it into context. Percentage is always the best way to go. Something likea 70/30 is fair I think.

I'm not sure if I'm comfortable comparing GGG to Manny Pacquiao! Manny had done quite well in the PPV game before he fought Floyd. GGG, not so much.